The thing is, and I am not trying to justify something that would hurt Jamil or John, I did change the recipes. That being said, I did get the recipes from their book. My recipes have different gravity numbers and the like, since you can't duplicate them exactly without tweaking your system to match the number... which you can only find in the book I talk about everyone should buy. I am glad we have at least one person that bought the book because of my thread. Honestly, these are recipes based on what the book gives as parameters to make the recipes. What is missing, on purpose, is the text which tells you why they chose (or exactly what to choose) specific ingredients. I am as vague as I can be to get a easily downloadable and usable version of their recipes. As for those wondering about my honesty, I chose to ask for input and information. I didn't even post all of the recipes. I take offense for people questioning my intent to maybe put one over on the authors of this great book. I promote the book, i just make it easier than asking or looking for the recipes for oneself. My intentions are pure, and all it would take is one post from Jamil or John in the negative for me to shut this down instantaneously. I ask the brewers on this forum for their input only, and appreciate (most) of the responses I have gotten. I am taking the recipes off of my dropbox, just to be sure I am not hurting the guys I care about most (John and Jamil) in all of this. Keep chatting and giving information though, as I respect it. I will ask that you never question my motives, as you do not know the code I live by. I am an Eagle Scout, Christian, and honestly good person (only mentioning these facts for those to think about) and would never do harm to another on purpose.