Brew Hut Raising Weekend - 4/25

[EdWort]

Back to work yesterday in 100+ degree heat again. I tell you, it is hot. I can't wait for cooler weather to come in.

I pulled all the stuff completely out of the brewhaus so I could put the items not needed away. It's been a great storage shed for the summer, but now it's time to get down to details.

We finished the trim work on the outside completely and began caulking all the trim. It's amazing how much work trim can be.

I need to finish caulking and then when the weather cools off a bit, we'll paint the out side. In the meantime, I need to trench 110 ft. to bring 100 AMP service to the brewhaus.

 

[BigKahuna]

W00t!
I live to see these updates!

Can't wait to see the gathering you'll hold there.

 

[JimBell]

I pulled all the stuff completely out of the brewhaus so I could put the items not needed away. It's been a great storage shed for the summer, but now it's time to get down to details.

You know,

The good thing is since you've built one, the one you build next summer for a storage shed will be simple!

 

[EdWort]

You know,

The good thing is since you've built one, the one you build next summer for a storage shed will be simple!

Yep, right after I build a run-in stable for SWMBO's next horse. :cross:

 

[JimBell]

Just don't try to force carb the yield from building two...

 

[TimGrz]

EdWort,

I love your project. The one question I had from reading the start of this thread I guessed the answer would be cost. But seeing how far, and how much, you have put into it, now I am really wondering as it would not have added that much in cost, and been much better in the end.

So, why not a cement floor? I would think an acid stained and sealed floor would be much easier to take care of especially for cleanup after any spills. You could have even gone so far as put a drain in the center and had the floor sloped to it so when you sprayed it down it would just drain out. I understand you might not have a sewer/septic system out there, but just having it drain out the back, or into a dry well, would have worked great.

/tg

 

[EdWort]

I'm putting in a tile floor and will have a floor drain. The "Shed" does not have a permanent foundation so it complies with my deed restrictions.

I would have loved to pour a pad for it, but that would open it up to all sorts of restrictions, HOA committee reviews & approvals, etc.

This way, it qualifies as a "Shed" or Out building.

 

[MadDwarf]

Sometimes I'm glad to be up north under the perpetual cloud - 100 degree heat is no place for picks and shovels!

Doubt you are entertaining the idea of digging that out by hand, but just in case - Ditch Witch. Well worth a half-day's rental.

 

[zoebisch01]

We finished the trim work on the outside completely and began caulking all the trim. It's amazing how much work trim can be.

Detail work is probably 40% of the total time value of a project.

 

[Germey]

I'm putting in a tile floor and will have a floor drain. The "Shed" does not have a permanent foundation so it complies with my deed restrictions.

I would have loved to pour a pad for it, but that would open it up to all sorts of restrictions, HOA committee reviews & approvals, etc.

This way, it qualifies as a "Shed" or Out building.

I thought one of the main points of living in the middle of Effin' nowhere was not having to deal with HOA's.

 

[EdWort]

Detail work is probably 40% of the total time value of a project.

Yep. I'll have it completely caulked by the weekend. I'm getting in two tubes in the morning before getting ready for work. This morning was not too bad, but the forecast is 98 degrees for the rest of the week. The heat has made a difference.

Now it's time for the big ladder to the the front and back overhangs. I'm glad I went with white paintable caulk as I can see what been done so far.

 

[Lanfox]

Nice work Ed, great pix.

 

[EdWort]

Caulking is finished. Tomorrow, my neighbor and I will trench 110' for Electricity and 30' for a water line.

 

[Orfy]

Hope it's not to hot for you.

 

[RichBrewer]

Looking great Ed!
Hey, is there any chance of you guys getting hit with the remnants of this latest hurricane? It looks like it is headed for Texas.

 

[EdWort]

Looking great Ed!
Hey, is there any chance of you guys getting hit with the remnants of this latest hurricane? It looks like it is headed for Texas.

I don't know. Gutav was supposed to come up here, but made a U-Turn and headed east after making land fall. We could use some rain.

 

[EdWort]

What a day. My neighbor showed up to dig a trench with his backhoe. Life was great till we hit the last 8 feet to the BrewHaus.

The brewhaus is sitting on a massive slab.

Luckily, the Equipment Rental place is only 3 minutes from my house.

 

[John Beere]

Yeah, that HAD to be a really bad feeling when you discovered that... whew!

 

[wihophead]

How deep is that trench?

 

[EdWort]

Yeah, that HAD to be a really bad feeling when you discovered that... whew!

I said a few words. It's going to cost me another day. On a good note, the connections on both ends are ready for me to pull three #3 cables through the conduit once the trench is complete.

I had an electrician hook up my 100 AMP service breaker. It's hot and he installed the service panel in the brewhaus today along with a main breaker inside as well.

 

[EdWort]

How deep is that trench?

18" is code. It might be a bit shallower in places, but we will have to go through and even things out.

 

[wihophead]

18" is code. It might be a bit shallower in places, but we will have to go through and even things out.

That is why I asked... You need the conduit covered by 18" of soil

Don't you have to pull a ground or do they still allow a detached structure without a grounding conductor in your area?

 

[EdWort]

That is why I asked... You need the conduit covered by 18" of soil

Don't you have to pull a ground or do they still allow a detached structure without a grounding conductor in your area?

Yep, we have more digging to do. But we have a very good start. I just wish we did not run into that rock ledge.

The BrewHaus will have it's own ground, so we won't be pulling one.

 

[wihophead]

Yep, we have more digging to do. But we have a very good start. I just wish we did not run into that rock ledge.

The BrewHaus will have it's own ground, so we won't be pulling one.

There really should be a grounding conductor that goes back to the main panel in addition to a ground rod...at least here in Wisconsin that is what is required.

A ground rod is for lightning protection while a grounding conductor is for personal/ground fault protection, two very different things.
But if the AHJ says it is OK with it then it must be OK......just a heads up.

 

[EdWort]

There really should be a grounding conductor that goes back to the main panel in addition to a ground rod...at least here in Wisconsin that is what is required.

A ground rod is for lightning protection while a grounding conductor is for personal/ground fault protection, two very different things.
But if the AHJ says it is OK with it then it must be OK......just a heads up.

I'll check with the electrician before we pull. (that's why I hired one). He'll do the final look see.

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[EdWort]

The BrewHaus has power!!!

247 Volts or 124 volts according to my VOM. Looks like there is no drop in voltage what so ever from the main feed. We ended up using about 125 feet of #3 wire.

Life is back to being good.

Cold room will be framed out and the current 10K BTU AC unit installed and a new 12K BTU heat/cool unit put in the old place. We need to wide the hole a bit, but that will not be a problem.

 

[talleym0nster]

Looks good, Ed. I wish I could have made it out there to lend a hand. I'm jealous!

 

[wihophead]

247 Volts or 124 volts according to my VOM. Looks like there is no drop in voltage what so ever from the main feed. We ended up using about 125 feet of #3 wire.

You need a load to determine if you have a voltage drop....you can have a mile of wire and you will not see a voltage drop if there is no load because if you take a reading at the panel in the brew shed you are technically reading the voltage drop of an open circuit which will be the entire applied voltage.

I calculated a drop of 6 volts at 100 amps so you will be fine....

Did you require a grounding conductor or are you allowed to bond your ground to your neutral bus in your brew house panel???


Voltage drop formula

Vd=KIL/CSA

12.9*100*250/52620 = 322500/52620 = 6.128 Volts dropped

 

[EdWort]

Did you require a grounding conductor or are you allowed to bond your ground to your neutral bus in your brew house panel???

We needed a grounded conductor. The brew haus panel is not bonded with the neutral bus. Thanks for the formulas!

 

[wihophead]

We needed a grounded conductor. The brew haus panel is not bonded with the neutral bus. Thanks for the formulas!

Glad you got her taken care of...I am extremely jealous...