Bramling X IPA?

[jaysquared2]

Got a 1/2 pound of Bramling Cross in need of being used here. Was thinking of a simple grain bill APA/IPA style beer. Something like:

10# 2-row
2# Flaked Oats
0.5# Carapils
0.75oz Columbus @ 60
2oz Bramling X @ 10
2oz Bramling X @ 5
2oz Bramling X @ Flameout
2oz Bramling X Dry Hopped
S-04 Yeast

Puts it around OG 1.06, 60.6 IBUs, Est 6.2%

I know Brewdog make a Bramling X IPA, but the recipe the released is very bland and missing what I think are key steps so I went with my own hop schedule. (I used oats cause every IPA I've done, NE or not, I've really enjoyed with them).

Thoughts?

 

[Northern_Brewer]

I take it you're referring to this? Hmm - just 50g of BX at flameout is not exactly much in a 7.5% beer. I love BX, but I'm not sure about putting it in beers that strong, I'd put twice as much late hops (in a similar sort of schedule to yours) in 2/3 of the ABV with half the IBUs as the Brewdog one. So in that regard I guess your version is just an amped up version of mine - I just can't quite get my head round how it would work as an "imperial".

I would say that because BX is so different to many British hops it works really nicely in blends - BX+Goldings is a real 2+2=6 combination, I'd be quite happy with that as a desert island beer.

 

[jaysquared2]

Yes, that is exactly the recipe I'm referring to. When I input their numbers in BeerSmith it's completely off what they list. I even emailed them about this to see if they could point me in the right direction on their hop schedule (as START and END aren't exactly the most useful times lol). They were basically of no help and said what they post is just a guideline, figure it out yourself. So that's basically what I tried to do. Tried to match close to their numbers, but lowering the IBU and ABV a bit cause I agree, 7.5% seems way too high for this hop. I picked the Columbus bittering addition cause I wanted to feature the BX hops without wasting them on bittering and I enjoy the more smooth bitterness Columbus gives. I could drop the IBUs a bit more and say maybe take 1 oz off of the 10 min addition and move it to flame out? Maybe even remove the remaining 1 oz @ 10 and put it into a steep/whirlpool around 170F?

Machine House Brewery in Seattle did a Bramling Cross IPA using my exact hops (Columbus and BX). So going to also try to see if I can get any useful information out of them about it. Theirs is 6.5%, no IBUs listed.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

I could drop the IBUs a bit more and say maybe take 1 oz off of the 10 min addition and move it to flame out? Maybe even remove the remaining 1 oz @ 10 and put it into a steep/whirlpool around 170F?

Wouldn't argue with any of that. I think you're right to assume Brewdog's START and END are 60 and flameout (but maybe they're bittering by other means and it's START of cooling ie flameout and END ie dry hops?!?!), but at the same time I wouldn't sweat too hard trying to clone what looks to my eyes like a rather flawed beer that's not been made with much sympathy to the hop. I'd do it closer to your way.