bottle dregs vs sacch yeast

[Matteo57]

Hey there,
So I wanted to save a bit of dregs from a bottle of DF3 Gueuze and I just brewed a batch of a flanders red. Anyways, I saved a jar of some wort from the batch and was wondering if I put dregs in the bottle if it would be fine for a good few months when I want to pitch into a lambic most likely?
I know if you put too few yeast cells per wort from sacch yeast they can stress the yeast. So that's really my question. Do bugs get stressed like sacch yeast in the same way? The jar is about a 12oz jar of wort. Wort is 1.045 about 16 IBUs.
Thanks all for the help!!

 

[comrock12]

Make a starter to ensure proper cell count, or roll the dice. Some stress can produce interesting results with any yeast, especially ones you are trying to encourage to get funky. Just make sure you wait long enough before assuming fermentation is done, especially with low pitching rates.

 

[Matteo57]

I am not asking wether I can use the dreggs by themselves and throw them into a beer. I'm asking whether or not the act of throwing dregs of a bottle into a 12oz jar of wort will stress the bugs like it would sacch yeast from bottle dregs.
I plan on throwing into some wort at sometime down the road with some other type of lambic or rosalare or some strain also, most likely not by itself.

 

[statseeker]

http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2011/03/maintaining-brett-and-lacto-cultures.html

This is a really good article about maintaining cultures like that for later pitching. From Oldsock.

 

[Calder]

Use a low hopped starter type wort, and add some sacc at the sametime. Stick on an airlock and it should keep for a year or longer. The longer you leave it, the more bugs you will have. If left for a long time, you may have to add fresh yeast.

 

[TravisT]

I will make 1/2 gallon of 1.02 wort and I'll just pitch a bottle or two of dregs and just wait a couple of months. I'll taste it, and if its good I'll pitch the whole thing into 5gl. Been working so far. Its kinda cool to have 5 to 6 mini sours to watch.

 

[dcp27]

I'd pitch the dregs from that bottle or 2 into the jar you previously mentioned, then add it to the 0.5gal after a week or so. you don't need to worry about stressing out the bugs, but you also don't want the fermentation to take too long to get started and have something else get in there. also, don't aerate. i've done this a number of times with good results

 

[Matteo57]

Is there a reason u can't keep it in the jar? Why move it to a .5 gallon container?

 

[dcp27]

you could keep it in the jar if you wanted. just suggested stepping up to the 0.5gal to build it up even more