Ordinary Bitter Boddington's Bitter

[dataz722]

Thanks! Promash is giving me 55-60 IBUs on the recipe as written (using 8% Target as my FWH and 4.5% EKG at 45 min and flameout)...seems high, but I'm going to trust the raves on this thread and leave it as-is.

I may have screwed it up but I am coming up with 37.6 in beersmith. Do you make to batch size 6.5?

 

[claphamsa]

batch size 5 gallson!

 

[mghayes]

is this recipe for boddingtons pub ale that comes in the pint cans?

 

[Orfy]

is this recipe for boddingtons pub ale that comes in the pint cans?

Depends when you are talking about.

It's the recipe of yesteryear.

 

[mghayes]

i am talking about the boddingtons that is currently being produced. i am a big fan of it and would like to produce something like it. but if this older recipe is just as good - i'll give it a shot. thanks.

 

[davenanjing]

dont go near the quizzes

 

[StickyWicket]

If you're brewing the extract version of this, how do you handle the FWH? Throw them in at the steep? Or do they just become a 60 m boil?

 

[Jonnio]

If you're brewing the extract version of this, how do you handle the FWH? Throw them in at the steep? Or do they just become a 60 m boil?

I threw mine in at the steep and let them come up to temp while the wort was working its way towards a boil...not that it is the correct way to do it, but that's what I did.

 

[Mutilated1]

Yeuss -- can't believe I just noticed this recipe. Going to brew this this weekend, I got to try this beer a couple months ago and loved it, but sadly we don't have it anywhere near here - have to drive to the ATL to get one on tap.

Can't wait to brew this.

Thanks

 

[planenut]

I'm going to try this one soon.

It sounds great Orfy.... um humbug...

PS: forgot to ask.. Is Wyeast 1318 the yeast to go with or something else?

 

[claphamsa]

I used the cheap stuff.... Safale-04 maybe (dont remmeber) and it came out GREAT!

 

[Orfy]

I used Notty (Dried)

 

[BioBeing]

Now THIS is my next one to brew!

 

[BioBeing]

Anyway, I'm looking at brewing a partial mash version of this, and since I did the math anyway, here's the recipe in "English" units :


7.25 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter
.55 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine
.264 lb Crystal Malt 60L
1 oz Chocolate Malt

Hopping schedule:
1oz Northern Brewer, First Wort Hops
1oz EKG (45 minutes)
1oz EKG (0 minutes AKA flameout)

Feel free to round off at your convenience .

Any advice out there on which malt extract to use to replace the Maris Otter?

I would just replace MO with 6 lbs. llight DME for extract version. Steep all other grains as the same weight. Same hop schedule. FWIW, I just replace the base of any AG with 6 lbs DME . Unless the specialty grains must be mashed, keep them the same -- hops, too. If you are looking for a more in-depth recipe, time for AG!

I'm looking at getting the ingredients for this, but had a couple of questions...

1. Is that really just 1 oz of chocolate malt?
2. Does Boddingtons count as an ordinary bitter or a special bitter? Using 6 lb of light dry extract in Beersmith suggests an OG of 1.057 (ABV of 5.49), too high for an ordinary bitter. Would it hurt to drop the malt to 4 lb?

Thanks! This will be only my second batch ever, so I'm trying to get my ducks in a row.

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

2. Does Boddingtons count as an ordinary bitter or a special bitter?

In my own opinion, the smooth mouth feel and creamy head puts the original boddingtons into a sub-category of it's own. I would call it an unusual ordinary bitter, if that makes any sense!

 

[BioBeing]

In my own opinion, the smooth mouth feel and creamy head puts the original boddingtons into a sub-category of it's own. I would call it an unusual ordinary bitter, if that makes any sense!

An unordinary special bitter, an inordinately not-ordinary bitter ... but how much extract to add

 

[Jonnio]

4.5 lbs of dry or 5.5 lbs of LME You could also use
MARIS OTTER EXTRACT 6 LBS @ Williams Brewing
for a little more authentic taste. If you do a partial boil I would use the same hops and add the majority of the extract in the last 15 minutes of the boil to keep the utilization the same.

I disagree with the post you quoted saying you have to go AG for more in depth. Proper recipe formation is independent of the type of brewing and this recipe can definitely be properly formulated with steeping grains and extract.

 

[BioBeing]

4.5 lbs of dry or 5.5 lbs of LME You could also use
MARIS OTTER EXTRACT 6 LBS @ Williams Brewing
for a little more authentic taste. If you do a partial boil I would use the same hops and add the majority of the extract in the last 15 minutes of the boil to keep the utilization the same.

I disagree with the post you quoted saying you have to go AG for more in depth. Proper recipe formation is independent of the type of brewing and this recipe can definitely be properly formulated with steeping grains and extract.

Ordered! Thanks. [Also got some UK Golding hops from them, as my LHBS only had Cascade.]

 

[BioBeing]

Got mine going last night. OG was a touch low at 1041, it seems a bit dark, and it hasn't started bubbling yet (13 hours after pitching). But I'm not worried just yet! This was my second batch ever. How important is keeping a constant temp while steeping the grains?

 

[jajabee]

Hey guys, can anyone tell me how "hoppy" this comes out? I know the modern-day Boddington's isn't very hoppy at all, but I've never tried the original one. Would a girl who hates hop flavor but usually enjoys bitters and ESBs enjoy this one?

 

[Chad]

Hey guys, can anyone tell me how "hoppy" this comes out? I know the modern-day Boddington's isn't very hoppy at all, but I've never tried the original one. Would a girl who hates hop flavor but usually enjoys bitters and ESBs enjoy this one?

Yes, probably. You could skip or cut down on the aroma-steep hop addition to avoid some of the hop flavors. That way all you have are bittering hops.

I just made this recipe yesterday with a couple of modifications. For the recipe as written Beersmith puts the IBUs at 34.7 and the IBU/SG ratio at .87, which is more bitter than I usually like. I reduced the FWH Northern Brewer to .5oz instead of .75oz. That was actually more convenient because my Northern Brewer hops are in .5oz plugs anyway. The result is 26.7 IBUs and a ratio of .67, right about where I like it. I used Wyeast 1318 (London Ale III), which is supposedly the Boddingtons strain. It's chugging away in the fermenter, so I'll let you know how it turns out in about 10 days.

Chad

 

[claphamsa]

Ill go check!

 

[claphamsa]

it has a slight hops tone to it... more in the aftertaste..... nice and malty though

 

[jajabee]

Nice, thanks guys! I'll have to do this one next.

 

[claphamsa]

you wont regret it!

 

[snailsongs]

so, could someone verify the yeast once and for all? I've heard S-04, Notty, and Wyeast 1318 London ale III. Orfy, you used Notty for yours, eh?

 

[FlyingHorse]

Awesome recipe, Orfy!

Brewed this last Sat night. Overshot the OG a little (1.043) due to 86% efficiency. Pitched on a cake of S-04. In 19 hours it was down to 1.016. Just checked it again (6 days) and it's at 1.012. The hydrometer sample made me want to start pulling pints. This is going in the keg tonight, and will likely be gone very soon. Gotta figure a way to make 10 gallons next time...

 

[Killer_Robot]

Trying this tonight and working with dry yeasts. Can anyone recommend Windsor vs. Nottingham vs. S-04 for this? Have a few others too, just these are the ones that keep coming up on searches for bitters.

EDIT: Just went with Nottingham. That way I can pitch my next recipe on the cake.

 

[Orfy]

Either's fine.

 

[PainAndDelight]

This beer is excellent. My wife's favourite, by far! Thanks for the recipe Orfy!