Blichmann Shortage
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bumstigedy
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I got my 10 gallon boilermaker early last week. NB got me a scratch and dent one for 10% off. It looked great! The only problem was that they forgot to put the dip tube in so I had to get NB to contact blichmann and ask them to send me the dip tube. I finally have the dip tube so I'm good to go now!
ruffdeezy
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Been over 3 weeks now for my Toptier. Actually starting to get really annoyed since the website still says in stock and ready for immediate shipment. To me that means they will ship it out in a business day or two.
ruffdeezy
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Actually they have changed it to in stock and ready for fast shipment.
ruffdeezy
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Toptier has shipped and should be here Friday. It's gonna be a fun weekend!
bumstigedy
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Glad to hear that you are finally getting it!
Let us know how the assembly goes and how you like brewing on it!
Let us know how the assembly goes and how you like brewing on it!
pfooti
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Yep, mine shipped too. I'm split between "woot" and "about dang time". 7 weeks is a long wait.
ruffdeezy
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Yeah I'd be pissed if it were 7 weeks for me.
But will probably be worth the wait.
But will probably be worth the wait.
Ordered a Blichmann burner on 3/13 and still nothing. I really went back and forth between this burner and one of the bayou classics. Obviously second guessing it now 
Not really pissed at the on line retailer, Blichmann should be the ones sending their customers an update since they already have my email (and money).
Not really pissed at the on line retailer, Blichmann should be the ones sending their customers an update since they already have my email (and money).
Ordered a Blichmann burner on 3/13 and still nothing. I really went back and forth between this burner and one of the bayou classics. Obviously second guessing it now
Not really pissed at the on line retailer, Blichmann should be the ones sending their customers an update since they already have my email (and money).
Not really pissed at the on line retailer, Blichmann should be the ones sending their customers an update since they already have my email (and money).
ruffdeezy
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Ordered a Blichmann burner on 3/13 and still nothing. I really went back and forth between this burner and one of the bayou classics. Obviously second guessing it now
Not really pissed at the on line retailer, Blichmann should be the ones sending their customers an update since they already have my email (and money).
Their burners are mint. You won't be disappointed once you finally get it. I also ordered on the 13th. Maybe email your retailer and ask whats up because Blichmann does not notfiy the customer of the tracking number, they notify the retailer.
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emjay
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ruffdeezy said:
How do the burners stack up against some of the better bayou burners and whatnot?
All I've read on them is what's available on the Blichmann site, and since I'll be moving soon to a new place WITHOUT my semi-pro gas stove (it's an electric range), but a much better property/yard for outdoor brewing, I'll be needing a burner in a little while.
Is there any reason to get the Blichmann burner when I don't intend on ever getting a toptier stand? Capability, flexibility, and quality are my main concerns. Cost isn't much of an issue, within reason (it'll actually be largely subsidized due to the inept stove!). At least as far as the price of the burner itself goes - efficiency is definitely something to consider, but I mean it in the strictest sense of the word. As in, I'm okay with high propane usage as long as a good percentage of the BTUs actually goes towards heating the wort, on both good and bad (ie windy) days.
You seem to really like Blichmann's burners, and I'm just wondering what I can expect from it that will make me love it. I mean, most of what they make is great stuff and I would assume this is too, but aside from a set of Blichmann gloves I bought on a whim a while ago, before I even ordered the stuff I generally had a much better understanding of not only the product itself, but of what sets it apart from the competition as well. The only propane burners I've ever used were the ones that sit under the grill on big, traditional barbecues, so a lot of the difficulty for me is probably just complete ignorance regarding banjo-type burners. Sorry if that suddenly makes it a ridiculously loaded question!
Is it even possible to spend a bit more for an even better product? The tiniest bit of help would still be greatly appreciated.
Didn't want to start a new thread so since its blichmann related I will just ask. Anyone who has a blichman floor burner does it have any wobble to it when you place it on the ground? If so can you adjust it so it sits level with no rocking. Just wondering if I got a bad one or if it seems to be the theme with blichmann. Any advice would be appreciated.
Yeah, I ordered from Brewmasters Warehouse and already shot them an email, they explained about the shortage and expected the burner to be sent out soon.
The main reason I went with this burner over the less expensive bayou was that supposedly the Blichmann is more efficient. I live in the Northeast and propane is expensive ($13 for refill, $15-$20 for exchange), so this should pay for itself quickly. That and having stainless vs. smelling that awful paint from Bayou swayed me.
I am brewing this weekend (Ruination clone), guess it is the old Turkey burner again for now.
Mine never wobbled, it worked really well. But I now have the blichmann stand so I no longer use the legs. I thought I read some where on the forum that Blichmann got a bad batch of legs recently. You might want to look into that.
Thanks for the heads up, i contacted blichmann about the issue. Hopefully in the next few days i will get an answer. Could not find any posts on here about the bad legs. Thanks again.
I ordered my Blichmann floor burner from Northern Brewer on 3/20, It was dropped shipped from Blichmann and I had it by 3/30.
As for the burner, no wobble. I am really liking how quiet it is even when the gas is fully opened.
As for the burner, no wobble. I am really liking how quiet it is even when the gas is fully opened.
SourHopHead
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Looking at the end of April for my 20gal & HopBlocker. Therminator was in stock at LHBS.
kappclark
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So, is the Blichman situation a supply problem or demand problem ?
I was thinking of starting w/ a 20G for HLT, but I guess I can wait.
I was thinking of starting w/ a 20G for HLT, but I guess I can wait.
pfooti
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Both, as I understand it. Their supply chain apparently had some issues at a time when demand was spiking up.
I've since gotten all my stuff and put everything together. It's a real hoot to go from a macgyver 5-gallon setup to a half-barrel stainless and shiny one.
I've since gotten all my stuff and put everything together. It's a real hoot to go from a macgyver 5-gallon setup to a half-barrel stainless and shiny one.
For anyone who recently received their top tier stand and burners - are the brackets for mounting the burners to the stand polished on the wrong side? I finally got my stuff (hooray) and the burner mounting brackets are shiny and nice on the inside, and scratched up and etched on the outside. Seems like it should be the other way.
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emjay
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My Blichmann stuff (15Gal kettle, Therminator plate chiller, HopRocket, and HopBlocker) arrived at my LHBS on Friday. I can pick it up whenever I want. I live about an hour away though, so I need to wait for a good chunk of time to go grab it
I could have had it mailed to me, but the items are big and heavy so I imagine it'd be pricey, and I don't want to risk even the slightest dent to that sexy hunk of metal if I don't have to Besides, if I can't find a few hours to go get it, I certainly won't have the 7-8 hours required for my next brewday!
I could have had it mailed to me, but the items are big and heavy so I imagine it'd be pricey, and I don't want to risk even the slightest dent to that sexy hunk of metal if I don't have to
Besides, if I can't find a few hours to go get it, I certainly won't have the 7-8 hours required for my next brewday!My problem with this whole thing is the lack of communication from Blichmann. I sent off an email to them and they just referred me back to the retailer.
Your telling me they can't look up my name and address since THEY are the ones shipping it to me? 1 month for a burner seems a tad ridiculous. I love my Boilermaker, but I'd like to see a little more on the customer service end or at least an "your order will ship on xx/xx" email.
Your telling me they can't look up my name and address since THEY are the ones shipping it to me? 1 month for a burner seems a tad ridiculous. I love my Boilermaker, but I'd like to see a little more on the customer service end or at least an "your order will ship on xx/xx" email.
ruffdeezy
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Nothing stood out for me, I think both sides look the same. But I could have easily missed it. Will check it out later.
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emjay
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Mayday99 said:
Why? Your business wasn't with Blichmann, it was with whatever homebrew supply shop you placed the order with. You were referred to the retailer because not only should you have been, but you also should have contacted the retailer to begin with.
As a manufacturer/supplier, they generally only deal directly with the retailers regarding matters of logistics, and so it's unlikely they're really equipped to be dealing with every single end-user's concerns about their orders because they have no reason to, and aren't really reasonably expected to. The email you got back is exactly what I would have expected, as they simply wouldn't have the staff/resources for communicating about such matters with every single customer, and if they were going to employ the people and do everything else necessary, they might as well just start selling the products from their own website.
I'm not trying to blindly make excuses for Blichmann here, but the fact is that you ordered it from another company, and part of their role as a retailer is to commit the time and resources to both conducting sales/taking orders, and providing support for the sales/orders. That's pretty much the purpose of a retail business. They can talk with their suppliers about certain supply/logistics matters if necessary, in which case they would talk to the right people from Blichmann ONCE, and then they'd have the information needed to provide support to all of their own customers - people like you and me. The fact that Blichmann often dropships doesn't change their role, responsibilities, or this hierarchy in general.
That's not to say Blichmann doesn't provide any customer support. As a manufacturer of their own brand of products, they almost certainly deal with questions and issues regarding the actual products themselves. They employ and train the people necessary to deal with this end-user aspect of customer service, and it's quite likely these people don't even have access to information on specific orders that are being dropshipped. They probably employ 1 or 2 people to deal with retailers on a day to day basis that do.
Heck, if they suddenly decided to pay for the people and resources necessary to provide direct customer service to individual end-consumers - time, money, and resources that are typically the retailer's responsibility - they would have to raise prices for the sole purpose of changing the email address I need to type in when asking about a delay or whatever, something of no real benefit to consumers.
Or if they wanted to keep the price the same, they could really piss off retailers and cover the cost by keeping MSRPs or retail price agreements the same while charging more to the retailer - which makes some sense because these ARE costs that are traditionally paid for (and handled) by the retailer. But this also highlights how stupid it would be, because the retailer can do it much more cheaply; since providing order support is something they already have to do anyways - some of them in far larger volumes than a single supplier would have to - their marginal cost for providing support for orders containing solely Blichmann products (since they'd still have to provide support for mixed orders regardless) would be far smaller than the cost to Blichmann.
Bottom line, there are a bunch of valid reasons why Blichmann would tell you to contact the retailer, mainly because your question is one that retailers are responsible for dealing with. I could see how the dropshipping might confuse things for you, but that really doesn't shift the job to the supplier and/or manufacturer, and you should have contacted your retailer in the first place, which would be the normal thing to do. You're complaining about their customer service when they did precisely what they should have. Maintaining the resources necessary to be able to answer every email like yours to your satisfaction would cost money and, ultimately, increased product prices. It might be a small increase, and I'm actually the kind of person who would rather have good customer service rather than save a few dollars. But in this case it would be sheer stupidity because it would be completely redundant - the retailer already has the resources to provide the EXACT same responses, and there is absolutely no reason to waste even more money just so we can have two sources for the same info. If the retailer's customer service is insufficient, rather than expect Blichmann to pick up their slack, I'd instead start looking for a more competent retailer.
You're free to go ahead and judge Blichmann's customer service poorly if you want, but I'll reserve my own judgment for if/when I have a question or issue that is actually appropriate for a manufacturer.
Thanks. If anybody else's look rough - I hit mine with a scrubbie and some bar keeper's friend and they look good now. Almost ready to fire the burners for the first time. :rockin:
ruffdeezy
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Actually mine are a bit scratched and nice and shiny in the inside. Not really that bad though and I'm not worried about it.
SourHopHead
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LHBS still has not got any in, but AHS shows inventory arriving on May 6th. I can only hope we get a few here. I am almost out of beer!!!
NattyBrew
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I placed an order for three 20 gallon Blichmann Boilermakers way back on March 13th and haven't heard on that status of my shipment yet. The site I ordered through, Rebel Brewer, said "End of April" they were expected to ship. I am hoping I get some shipment information soon. I'll update everyone if I get a tracking number here in the next week or two.
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cyraxx
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My friend and I just bought a 15 gallon Boilermaker yesterday at our LHBS. It was a "blemished" item, which turned out to just be some small markings on the inside of the kettle, but we got 10% off which was nice.
SpanishCastleAle
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FWIW, you can buy it from one of the online HB shops that has free or flat rate shipping. I can't remember if I paid $5.99 or nothing when I had mine shipped. It gets shipped to your LHBS so the risk of dentage is about the same. At today's gas prices, even $7.99 might be cheaper than a trip back/forth an hour away! Not to mention it just shows up at your doorstep.My Blichmann stuff (15Gal kettle, Therminator plate chiller, HopRocket, and HopBlocker) arrived at my LHBS on Friday. I can pick it up whenever I want. I live about an hour away though, so I need to wait for a good chunk of time to go grab it
I could have had it mailed to me, but the items are big and heavy so I imagine it'd be pricey, and I don't want to risk even the slightest dent to that sexy hunk of metal if I don't have to
There was also a shortage of Boilermakers back when I got mine around christmas-time of '09. They weren't shipping but their website made no mention of it and encouraged people to order. I didn't think Blichmann handled it very well at all. I really like the FB but other than that they're just OK. And the lid falls off if you just look at it wrong (very poor design for the lid imo).
pfooti
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Heh, yeah- I had my entire order (toptier, three burners, three pots, therminator, fb, etc) shipped from NB for $7.99.
SourHopHead
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LHBS got an email from Blichmann's saying backorders are being filled. Hope to be brewing again next week!
bumstigedy
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Congratulations! Hopefully lhbs will give u a tracking # when it ships.
NattyBrew
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Nice! Now I can finally get my hands on the products I paid for almost two months ago! If I get tracking number on my order which was placed through Rebel Brewer I will let you guys know.
Matt
Matt
Read this thread on Monday and started to get worried since ive been waiting on a 15gal Boilermaker for a while now, then got a call on Wednesday saying it was in!!! Yay! Im excited! Hope everyones orders get filled soon.
NattyBrew
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I just got in touch with Rebel Brewer asking the same question regarding an update and they have been told by Blichmann that they received stock and began filling orders last week. They have started with the oldest orders first so it all depends on when your order was placed. I had mine in by mid to late March for three 20 gallon kettles and haven't received any shipping info yet.
I'll post back here once I do, hopefully soon.
Matt
I'll post back here once I do, hopefully soon.
Matt
If it helps, my order of 3 20-gallon kettles arrived today. My order was placed on March 13th - maybe that'll help guage where you might stand. I also ordered a Hop Rocket, but that's still on back order.
EDIT - also done via Rebel Brewer
EDIT - also done via Rebel Brewer
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