American IPA Bissell Brother's The Substance Clone

[Colbizle]

On your recipe you have 20 minute hop "steep"- are you using these additions during the whirlpool or are you adding them at 20minutes?

It means he is throwing them in after flame out and steeping them for 20 minutes.

A hop steep (aka whirlpool) means after flame out you toss the hops in, put on a lid and set a timer for however long you want (usually not more than 45-60 min). Some people chill to 180-170F then do the hop steep.

 

[Brizzo]

Thank you- it was just worded awkwardly in the recipe. Probably gonna try to do this one this weekend,

 

[Brizzo]

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[WouldBeBrewmaster]

I was up in Portland last week and picked up some of The Substance. My beer is on the left, on the right is Substance from a year ago.
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I haven't emailed Noah, but I would guess the grist might be as high as 10% flaked oats and 10% flaked wheat. In addition to the change in clarity, the mouthfeel is noticeably softer. There very well could be more calcium chloride in the water.

New England pale ale/IPA is emerging as a new regional style. Pale in color, cloudy, soft mouthfeel, and juicy hop flavor. The changes may well be to conform to, or were inspired by that trend.

 

[user 190343]

I don't know, man. Your color is much closer to the grapefruit juice I had there 2mo ago. A friend just brought me this one, dated 10/20, and it's way closer to the color of yours. View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1447127915.716520.jpg

I def smell Falconer's Flight in the hops.

Did you ever get a response from Noah? I'm hoping to go up in a few weeks and will try to get any more info.

 

[jjbanks]

Just Brewed this up yesterday. Subbed out Apollo for magnum. Added dextrose at 30 min. Pitched wyeast 1056 onto 1.061 OG.

Pretty active fermentation after a day as you can see. It's swirling.

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[WouldBeBrewmaster]

I don't know, man. Your color is much closer to the grapefruit juice I had there 2mo ago. A friend just brought me this one, dated 10/20, and it's way closer to the color of yours. View attachment 315010

I def smell Falconer's Flight in the hops.

Did you ever get a response from Noah? I'm hoping to go up in a few weeks and will try to get any more info.

The split photo is the current version of The Substance and The Substance from 2014.

 

[Mainer]

I don't know, man. Your color is much closer to the grapefruit juice I had there 2mo ago. A friend just brought me this one, dated 10/20, and it's way closer to the color of yours. View attachment 315010

I def smell Falconer's Flight in the hops.

Did you ever get a response from Noah? I'm hoping to go up in a few weeks and will try to get any more info.

I live in Portland and get this regularly. There's definitely been a lot of change in the last couple years, and yours looks way closer to their current recipe.

 

[jjbanks]

Dry hopping in the keg now. Down to 1.009 from 1.061. View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1456544414.457684.jpg

 

[Mainer]

Dry hopping in the keg now. Down to 1.009 from 1.061. View attachment 340224

What's the deal with the foil over the mouth of the carboy?

 

[jjbanks]

What's the deal with the foil over the mouth of the carboy?

Just had it there for a few minutes while I got my siphon and keg setup.

 

[Mainer]

Okay, cool. I didn't know if it was some cool dry-hopping trick I'd never heard of.

 

[jjbanks]

View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1457398451.219194.jpg overall a pretty tasty brew. I need to dial in my water chemistry though and ph. Next steps....