BIAB/no chill/ferment in single keggle

[lcf8088]

So I was looking into the biab and no chill methods and see that people are transferring to plastic tubs for no chill. I was wondering if there are any issues doing it all in a single keggle. No transfers, no plastic containers.

Now, the issue would be the opening of the keggle during cooling/fermentation. Wouldn't using some tubing sliced down the middle and put on the edge of the top that you cut from the keggle create a seal?

During the cooling you could put a solid bung in the keggle top and with a vacuum created during cooling it would self seal. (with possibly a little silicon or something where the tubing meets each other)

When your ready to ferment it would be a problem with lack of a vacuum. To solve this you could come up with a permanent or temporary solution (threaded rod, ect) to tighten the top down during fermentation. So tops sealed now, aerate, remove solid bung, pitch yeast, add drilled bung with airlock and ferment.

What do you guys think of this?

 

[funkapottomous]

meh. before I started brewing with my buddy who has the immersion chiller, I'd just cover the damn thing with some paper towels and let it sit and cool. Never had any problems.

edit:Just realized you're talking about fermenting in the keggle as well. My bad.

 

[bruin_ale]

So I was looking into the biab and no chill methods and see that people are transferring to plastic tubs for no chill. I was wondering if there are any issues doing it all in a single keggle. No transfers, no plastic containers.

Now, the issue would be the opening of the keggle during cooling/fermentation. Wouldn't using some tubing sliced down the middle and put on the edge of the top that you cut from the keggle create a seal?

During the cooling you could put a solid bung in the keggle top and with a vacuum created during cooling it would self seal. (with possibly a little silicon or something where the tubing meets each other)

When your ready to ferment it would be a problem with lack of a vacuum. To solve this you could come up with a permanent or temporary solution (threaded rod, ect) to tighten the top down during fermentation. So tops sealed now, aerate, remove solid bung, pitch yeast, add drilled bung with airlock and ferment.

What do you guys think of this?

Not all that worried about the seal, you could just cover it with something clean and it'd be fine - you don't really need an air tight environment for fermenting. I'd be more upset with the fact that you can't brew again until it's done fermenting.

 

[bschoenb]

Never Tried it before, but I don't see why you just could put the lid on it; wait for it to cool an pitch your yeast all the in same Keggle/Kettle as long as your fermentation temps are where you want them to be.

But, then I'd need more Kettles, and plastic Buckets are way cheaper........

 

[lcf8088]

True, I would want the option to brew again if I wanted. Well think I will no chill in the BK and transfer to primary the next day.

 

[originalben]

I use Winpak cubes from USPlastics to no chill.
Immediately after boil, drain kettle into cube, squeeze sides to very top, replace lid, turn upside down to resanitize lid, pop in fermenter till next day.
They are minimal size,easy to clean and move and pretty inexpensive.(~$15 each shipped)
Allows me to clean and reuse kettle right away and saves a bunch of space in fermenter.
Happy brewing!

 

[lcf8088]

Why not just put straight into a glass carboy or better bottle?

 

[originalben]

I had gathered that a zero headspace container was better. Also don't think glass carboys are a good receptacle for boiling liquid.
Could be wrong, but those are the 2 reasons I use the winpaks.

 

[lcf8088]

Im not sure why a zero headspace would matter unless your trying to store it long term due to oxygen (unless you prime with c02 of course).

As for glass carboy just dont shock the glass too bad and I couldnt see it as a problem.

Does anyone know if the better bottles would hold up to the heat or I would imagine they would soften up pretty good.

 

[Hoosier-Brewer]

from the Better Bottle website. Bear in mind that the upper temperature limit for BetterBottle carboys is 60°C (140°F)

 

[wilserbrewer]

I have recently started BIAB no chill, then ferment in the kettle and rack to keg within ten days...these are mid gravity brews and this seems to work very well and is easy peasy