Best NEIPA hop combos

[Rob2010SS]

I love Apollo. I get more of a dank orange profile from it than a grapefruit. Strata I do get dank grapefruit. If you’re really looking for a beer with a nice dank character than I think the first one is perfect. That being said, just strata and citra work great together and if you use Apollo predominately in the whirlpool and not in the dryhop I think it would be great.
I’d go 2:1:1 hotside (Apollo, citra, strata) and then 2:1 (citra, strata) dryhop

I’m not a Vic secret fan at all so someone else who enjoys its profile may have a good ratio for you.

Thanks man!

What about apollo made you say to use it in that ratio? Just your experience with it?

 

[Dgallo]

Thanks man!

What about apollo made you say to use it in that ratio? Just your experience with it?

I’ve used a handful of times and whirlpool has always shown to be the best, in the dryhop it’s doesn’t come across bright enough for me. In whirlpool I get a nice dank and orange pith. It’s a great base hop to build upon and the citra should brighten it and the strata should round out the gaps

 

[Rob2010SS]

I’ve used a handful of times and whirlpool has always shown to be the best, in the dryhop it’s doesn’t come across bright enough for me. In whirlpool I get a nice dank and orange pith. It’s a great base hop to build upon and the citra should brighten it and the strata should round out the gaps

Gotcha. Awesome info man. Appreciate it! I think im going to take your advice and go the 2:1:1 ratio in whirlpool and go citra/strata in dry hop

 

[Dgallo]

Gotcha. Awesome info man. Appreciate it! I think im going to take your advice and go the 2:1:1 ratio in whirlpool and go citra/strata in dry hop

Let me know how it goes for you. And as always, limit your oxygen exposer to the bare minimum, its crucial if you really want those hopS to pop

 

[Rob2010SS]

Let me know how it goes for you. And as always, limit your oxygen exposer to the bare minimum, its crucial if you really want those hopS to pop

Yeah absolutely. I always try to limit as much as possible on the cold side but I'l be implementing some of the LODO techniques on the hot side with this one.

 

[ba-brewer]

Thought I would report back that Citra, Denali and Azacca seemed to work out well. Citra comes thru strong in the aroma, but not so much in the flavor, the flavor is something close to pineapple.

 

[sicktght311]

I've been having luck randomly with "Kitchen Sink" hop combinations in my NEIPAs. I've found myself with under 8oz of hops in my freezer that i put together in random combinations and they've ended up being some of my best NEIPAs to date.

So far this was the best one i did (5gal Batches).
Kitchen Sink #2 - .5oz Tahoma FWH, 2.5oz Citra 2.5oz Mandarina in whirlpool, 2oz Citra, 2oz Cascade, 1oz Simcoe in Dryhop 1, 2.5 Citra 3oz Azacca in Dryhop 2

 

[Noob_Brewer]

Looking for my next hop combo for next brew: thinking citra/idaho 7/strata OR citra/azacca/strata. Most interested in bringing out strata dankness. I know what to expect from citra, azacca, and I7 but not as much strata but want the mix of tropical/citrus dankness. I have strata 2019 batch. Anyone use strata lately? What were your impressions? I am thinking equal parts of each of the three hops on both the hot and cold side.

 

[sicktght311]

Looking for my next hop combo for next brew: thinking citra/idaho 7/strata OR citra/azacca/strata. Most interested in bringing out strata dankness. I know what to expect from citra, azacca, and I7 but not as much strata but want the mix of tropical/citrus dankness. I have strata 2019 batch. Anyone use strata lately? What were your impressions? I am thinking equal parts of each of the three hops on both the hot and cold side.

Strata is POTENT, so you need like half of what you would use with something like citra to bring out its characteristics. Dont overdo it with Strata

 

[Noob_Brewer]

Strata is POTENT, so you need like half of what you would use with something like citra to bring out its characteristics. Dont overdo it with Strata

Thanks! Thats very helpful. Hmm...makes me think that using citra/azacca/strata would be better than citra/idaho7/strata as I wouldn't want tooo much of the herbal tea that comes with idaho 7 to make this a dank bomb when you add the strata. So having both citra and azacca that carry intense citrus/tropics would carry this better with the dankness from strata in more of the background.

 

[echoALEia]

Thanks! Thats very helpful. Hmm...makes me think that using citra/azacca/strata would be better than citra/idaho7/strata as I wouldn't want tooo much of the herbal tea that comes with idaho 7 to make this a dank bomb when you add the strata. So having both citra and azacca that carry intense citrus/tropics would carry this better with the dankness from strata in more of the background.

Funny, my latest is a Strata/Citra/Idaho7 2:1:0.5 ratio. The beer in the back is a single dry hop and the one in the front is freshly DDH, so I’m waiting for the hops to drop out. Fermented with a blend of s-33, wb-06, and k-97. So far it smells pretty dank, but I will update you when it’s finished and let you know the aromas and flavors I get

 

[jturman35]

Planing my next batch next weekend. Going to try the largest hop bill I have attempted and also layer the hops throughout the whirlpool.

 

[downzero]

Thanks! Thats very helpful. Hmm...makes me think that using citra/azacca/strata would be better than citra/idaho7/strata as I wouldn't want tooo much of the herbal tea that comes with idaho 7 to make this a dank bomb when you add the strata. So having both citra and azacca that carry intense citrus/tropics would carry this better with the dankness from strata in more of the background.

I made a beer recently with Columbus in the boil and hopstand, and Citra/Galaxy in the dry hop, and it's really good.

 

[Noob_Brewer]

Planing my next batch next weekend. Going to try the largest hop bill I have attempted and also layer the hops throughout the whirlpool.


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What temp you going for in whirlpool @jturman35 ? How you doing your dry hops? You staying with cooler temps this time around? Love the simcoe/amarillo combo though!

 

[Noob_Brewer]

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Funny, my latest is a Strata/Citra/Idaho7 2:1:0.5 ratio. The beer in the back is a single dry hop and the one in the front is freshly DDH, so I’m waiting for the hops to drop out. Fermented with a blend of s-33, wb-06, and k-97. So far it smells pretty dank, but I will update you when it’s finished and let you know the aromas and flavors I get

Thanks for the input! I definitely want the dank to come out with either Strata/Citra/I7 or Strata/Azacca/Citra but don't want it to drown out the citrus/tropics either. Let me know how you like this one!

 

[jturman35]

I was thinking of starting the first whirlpool addition at 170 and for each hop addition lower the temp about 10 degrees, hold for 10 mins, etc... I do want a touch of the pine bitterness to come through so I may raise that to 180.

For the dry hops thought about multiple additions. First dry hop at 36 hr and second at day 12. May add keg hops also. I do have one oz of Amarillio cryo hops, but not sure where to put that in the mix. May work well in the keg. I usually do 6oz whirlpool with 6oz dry hop but on this batch I want to push the envelope with this one.

My only attempt at soft crashing and doing a short 36hr dry hop failed miserably. Absolutely no hop aroma whatsoever. The flavor and bitterness is there but just no aroma. I do want to go back and rebrew this beer as it has real potential.


Has anyone had Hood Hearted “Did we just become best friends?” Simcoe/Amarillo This beer blew me away and hope to somewhat recreate.

 

[jturman35]

Looking for my next hop combo for next brew: thinking citra/idaho 7/strata OR citra/azacca/strata. Most interested in bringing out strata dankness. I know what to expect from citra, azacca, and I7 but not as much strata but want the mix of tropical/citrus dankness. I have strata 2019 batch. Anyone use strata lately? What were your impressions? I am thinking equal parts of each of the three hops on both the hot and cold side.

I am dialing my NEIPA’s back to just two hops variations . I feel like the beers I have made with three different hops just didn’t pop. It’s probably because I’m not using the right amount of each addition although I typically borrow other people’s recipe. I have only brewed about 9 NEIPA’s and to me this has really been a hard style to nail down. I will say I have high expectations. Really trying to brew a NEIPA that’s as good if not better than the top 10% commercial examples that’s out there. Basically trying to recreate these $17-20 (4 pack cans).

I personally would brew Citra / Idaho-7. After only 2 years of home brewing I’m starting to learn that most of the time less is more!

 

[ttuato]

Looking for my next hop combo for next brew: thinking citra/idaho 7/strata OR citra/azacca/strata. Most interested in bringing out strata dankness. I know what to expect from citra, azacca, and I7 but not as much strata but want the mix of tropical/citrus dankness. I have strata 2019 batch. Anyone use strata lately? What were your impressions? I am thinking equal parts of each of the three hops on both the hot and cold side.

I have been using Strata since it was X331 - killer hop! In the same category as Citra, Mosaic, & Galaxy IMHO. I go through 2-3lbs a year of it. Citra & Strata are a match made in heaven. I strongly recommend the Citra/I7/Strata --- but I hate azacca. Use all three equal parts in the whirlpool, then dial the I7 back a bit in the dryhop - 2:2:1 Citra, Strata, I7

 

[sniak]

With the recipe that took shape HERE, i am trying to get a tropical yet not too bitter profile, similar to the Thornbridge AM : PM Session IPA.

i thought about, for an 11 Liter batch doing a:
Hops:
Warrior - 5 gram - 60 min

20 min flameout of
- Amarillo - 5 gram
- Citra - 10 gram
- Nelson Sauvin (or Hallertau Blanc) - 10 gram

and another 10 gram of each for 7 days of dry hopping:
Citra & Nelson Sauvin (or Hallertau Blanc)

does this make sense ? or am i missing something that will lead me to an awful taste ?

Thanks

 

[echoALEia]

My Strata/Citra/Idaho7 combo (2/1/0.5 ratio) is killer after conditioning. I’d highly recommend this to everyone. It’s extremely aromatic and the haze is glowing and beautiful. Cheers!

 

[Noob_Brewer]

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My Strata/Citra/Idaho7 combo (2/1/0.5 ratio) is killer after conditioning. I’d highly recommend this to everyone. It’s extremely aromatic and the haze is glowing and beautiful. Cheers!

Thanks for reporting back! Are those ratios you used total hops or just dry hopping ratios?

 

[Jag75]

I'm really liking this Amarillo , mosaic, Galaxy and Mandarina Bavaria hops . This is the Orange cream milkshake IPA

 

[echoALEia]

Thanks for reporting back! Are those ratios you used total hops or just dry hopping ratios?

No problem! In the whirlpool and dry hop

 

[Dgallo]

I just was just organizing my recipes and looking over notes and thought id share Combo that didn’t work well for the style. My worse NEIPA to date was a El Dorado and Lemon drop at 1 to.75 ratio. It lended too much candy sweetness upfront without any depth. Save yourself and don’t use it

 

[Aristoi]

Funny you mention that combo, i was just drinking a Stone Delicious IPA the other day that lists the same hop combo on the can and thought the same thing, not as delicious as i thought it would be. Maybe I did not care for it because its clear!

 

[Dgallo]

Funny you mention that combo, i was just drinking a Stone Delicious IPA the other day that lists the same hop combo on the can and thought the same thing, not as delicious as i thought it would be. Maybe I did not care for it because its clear!

Thats the beer that made me give it a shot in a NEIPA. I didn’t mind the stone but I thought the profile would pop better in a NEIPA. But it really didn’t work. It’s the only NEIPA I’ve brewed in the past 3 years that I was extremely disappointed with

 

[Jag75]

I didnt care for their delicious IPA either. I do like the ripper though .

 

[anteater8]

I've brewed a lot NEIPA's and thought it would be cool to compile and rank all of the hop combos I've used. Most of these are using Braufessor's recipe, except the ones with CTZ are using the Trillium Melcher St recipe. I typically use Imperial Juice, and a 75:150 sulfate:chloride ratio.

Ranking system:
1 = exceptional
2 = great
3 = good
4 = meh
5 = not great

Hop combos:
1 Citra, Mosaic, Amarillo, Galaxy
1 CTZ, Vic Secret
1 CTZ, Citra (1st place, 40/50)
1 Citra, Mosaic, Idaho 7 (1st place, 33.5/50)
2 CTZ, Galaxy, Mosaic
2 CTZ, Mosaic
2 Citra, Mosaic, Galaxy
2 Citra
2 Mosaic
2 Citra, Mosaic
3 CTZ, Citra, Mosaic, Galaxy
3 Citra, Ekuanot
3 CTZ, Simcoe, Motueka, Azacca
3 Mosaic, Ekuanot (33/50)
3 Galaxy, El Dorado
3 Galaxy, Amarillo
4 Azacca
4 Citra, Mosaic, El Dorado
4 Galaxy
5 Nelson
5 Galaxy, Azacca, Ekuanot

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Thanks @anteater8 for sharing. On an NEIPA thing again so helps a lot.

 

[Clyde McCoy]

I've brewed a lot NEIPA's and thought it would be cool to compile and rank all of the hop combos I've used. Most of these are using Braufessor's recipe, except the ones with CTZ are using the Trillium Melcher St recipe. I typically use Imperial Juice, and a 75:150 sulfate:chloride ratio.

Ranking system:
1 = exceptional
2 = great
3 = good
4 = meh
5 = not great

Hop combos:
1 Citra, Mosaic, Amarillo, Galaxy
1 CTZ, Vic Secret
1 CTZ, Citra (1st place, 40/50)
1 Citra, Mosaic, Idaho 7 (1st place, 33.5/50)
2 CTZ, Galaxy, Mosaic
2 CTZ, Mosaic
2 Citra, Mosaic, Galaxy
2 Citra
2 Mosaic
2 Citra, Mosaic
3 CTZ, Citra, Mosaic, Galaxy
3 Citra, Ekuanot
3 CTZ, Simcoe, Motueka, Azacca
3 Mosaic, Ekuanot (33/50)
3 Galaxy, El Dorado
3 Galaxy, Amarillo
4 Azacca
4 Citra, Mosaic, El Dorado
4 Galaxy
5 Nelson
5 Galaxy, Azacca, Ekuanot

Do you mind sharing the Trillium Melcher St recipe you use with CTZ?