American IPA Bell's Two Hearted Ale Clone (close as they come)

[user 185392]

Of the 20+ brews I have made, this is by far my favourite! Tried another batch with 50/50 centennial and Amarillo and just isn't as good as the original.

 

[huckbof]

I made this recipe but used wlp cal v and it was gtg

 

[RodrigoEick]

I've made this beer a few times and it's great. Until I switched out the hops to Citra, Wow that is the way to go!!

Did you just switched to Citra and kept all the quantities and boil schedule?

 

[brewski09]

Did you just switched to Citra and kept all the quantities and boil schedule?

I'd probably adjust for aa% like a New Years crop of centennial because I think the bitterness is good as is and would t want to change that personally.

 

[zackattack784]

How is everyone hitting 7%abv? I've brewed this twice now and both times came in around 6.5%. My latest batch I mashed at 150 and used Bell's yeast. I went from 1.063 to 1.014. Should I just mash lower, increase my grain, both?

 

[MEPNew2Brew]

How is everyone hitting 7%abv? I've brewed this twice now and both times came in around 6.5%. My latest batch I mashed at 150 and used Bell's yeast. I went from 1.063 to 1.014. Should I just mash lower, increase my grain, both?

I love this stuff; it is my house IPA and I have brewed it a number of times, always hitting between 1.010 and 1.008. I use US-05, one packet re-hydrated, and mash for 75 minutes. A shake the fermentation bucket hard for 3 minutes before pitching.

 

[MEPNew2Brew]

How is everyone hitting 7%abv? I've brewed this twice now and both times came in around 6.5%. My latest batch I mashed at 150 and used Bell's yeast. I went from 1.063 to 1.014. Should I just mash lower, increase my grain, both?

My apologies - I didn't directly address your question. I would try mashing lower and make sure you have enough, good, healthy yeast. Try 2 packets of US-05 and see what happens.

 

[GrogNerd]

How is everyone hitting 7%abv? I've brewed this twice now and both times came in around 6.5%. My latest batch I mashed at 150 and used Bell's yeast. I went from 1.063 to 1.014. Should I just mash lower, increase my grain, both?

My apologies - I didn't directly address your question. I would try mashing lower and make sure you have enough, good, healthy yeast. Try 2 packets of US-05 and see what happens.

if you're not getting the attenuation (FG is higher than expected), then mash lower

if you're not hitting your pre-boil #s and your efficiency is low (OG is lower than expected), you may need to increase grain bill

do one or the other next time you brew (I would do the mash temp adjustment first; saves you the cost if you don't need the extra grain), then if the same thing happens on that batch, then do the other the next time.

 

[Danno81]

I significantly increased my o.g. By slowing down my sparge time I was constantly hitting 60% I slowed down the sparge and now get around 75 -80 %

 

[RodrigoEick]

I significantly increased my o.g. By slowing down my sparge time I was constantly hitting 60% I slowed down the sparge and now get around 75 -80 %

How long you taking to sparge?

Guess I'm rushing mine too

 

[kpr121]

How long you taking to sparge?

Guess I'm rushing mine too

What type of sparging are we talking about here? Sparge time would only really be a factor if you're fly sparging. If you batch sparge, really you want to drain as fast as possible (after you have sufficiently agitated the mash enough to 'break away' any of the fermentable sugars).

 

[RodrigoEick]

I'm making a manual fly sparge, adding hot water as needed to keep around 1 inch of water on top of the grain. The sparge process don't take more than 10-15 minutes

 

[kpr121]

I'm making a manual fly sparge, adding hot water as needed to keep around 1 inch of water on top of the grain. The sparge process don't take more than 10-15 minutes

In that case, Id say you're rushing too.

 

[zackattack784]

I'm making a manual fly sparge, adding hot water as needed to keep around 1 inch of water on top of the grain. The sparge process don't take more than 10-15 minutes

It should take around an hour to fly sparge.

 

[flyingd54]

For those who are curious, Bells has had their Two Hearted recipe available online for at least a year now. I use Bells General Store as my LHBS and noticed they have print-offs of the recipe right there as well. It's pretty close to the OP considering this info wasn't available in 7+ years ago.

5 gal batch

10 lbs Briess 2-row
2.83 lbs Briess Pale malt
8 oz. Briess Caramel 40

1.2oz. Centennial 9.1% 45min
1.2oz. Centennial 9.1% 30min
3.5oz. Centennial 9.1% DH

WLP001 or WLP051

OG 1.063
FG 1.012
SRM 10
IBU 55
65% efficiency

Here's a link to the full recipe
http://m.imgur.com/r/Homebrewing/bfITU9X

 

[kpr121]

That's quite a bit more dry hopping, 3.5 oz compared to 0.5 oz in this recipe. And no late addition boil hops? Interesting. Thanks for sharing

 

[thefolkmetal]

Also, there are no late addition hops in that recipe. Seems like it could be a good idea to split the 3.5 oz dry hop addition into something like .5 oz at 5 minutes, 1 oz at flameout, and 2 oz as dry hop.

Thanks for sharing, though!

 

[flyingd54]

I hesitate to commit my own pet peeve and talk about what I'm GOING to brew and not results, but tonight's recipe is a combo of the OP and the official recipe. I'm going with the Vienna and the 40cc while doing just as you suggested above and pulling back on the DH in favor of a few late additions.

 

[MMJfan]

Also, there are no late addition hops in that recipe. Seems like it could be a good idea to split the 3.5 oz dry hop addition into something like .5 oz at 5 minutes, 1 oz at flameout, and 2 oz as dry hop.

Thanks for sharing, though!

I have been upping my dry hop additions to 2 oz from the OP's recipe for quite some time now. I follow his hop additions in the boil but I just felt like .5 oz in the dry hop wouldn't be enough and I've found 2 oz to be a nice fit.

What is interesting is that when you add up all of my hop additions in the recipe I use it adds up to 6 oz total and when you add up the hop additions from the Bell's General Store recipe it checks in at just under 6 oz of total hops (5.9)

I think I'm going to change things up and give this Bell's General Store recipe a try on my next go around of brewing this tasty nectar and see how it compares to my current recipe.

 

[Moose_MI]

For those who are curious, Bells has had their Two Hearted recipe available online for at least a year now. I use Bells General Store as my LHBS and noticed they have print-offs of the recipe right there as well. It's pretty close to the OP considering this info wasn't available in 7+ years ago.

5 gal batch

10 lbs Briess 2-row
2.83 lbs Briess Pale malt
8 oz. Briess Caramel 40

1.2oz. Centennial 9.1% 45min
1.2oz. Centennial 9.1% 30min
3.5oz. Centennial 9.1% DH

WLP001 or WLP051

OG 1.063
FG 1.012
SRM 10
IBU 55
65% efficiency

Here's a link to the full recipe
http://m.imgur.com/r/Homebrewing/bfITU9X

Bells is also my LHBS and I picked up that recipe on my first trip in there over a year ago. I've brewed it at least 4 times now and will be doing it again. Keep thinking I want to do a little different IPA but every time I start thinking about changing it I realize I love this recipe and I repeat it.

 

[NewkyBrown]

Can anyone tell me if this beer is similar to Stone Ruination? I was thinking of brewing
both but not sure if this is the better recipe?

Thanks.

 

[Agate]

I've actually made both recently. They're quite close, with ruination obviously being the more bitter of the two. But the centennial flavor comes through clearly in both.

 

[Agate]

View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1432669980.408470.jpg
Gratuitous beer shot - ruination clone is on the left, 2HA on the right. Cheers!

 

[watermelon83]

I have been upping my dry hop additions to 2 oz from the OP's recipe for quite some time now. I follow his hop additions in the boil but I just felt like .5 oz in the dry hop wouldn't be enough and I've found 2 oz to be a nice fit.

What is interesting is that when you add up all of my hop additions in the recipe I use it adds up to 6 oz total and when you add up the hop additions from the Bell's General Store recipe it checks in at just under 6 oz of total hops (5.9)

I think I'm going to change things up and give this Bell's General Store recipe a try on my next go around of brewing this tasty nectar and see how it compares to my current recipe.

I think the oz. at 60 makes for far to much throat bit bitter in this case. I was delighted to see the brewers recipe didn't include a 60m addition as I do not feel the grain bill supports it.

Edit: I tasted this going to secondary, OP's grain bill Bell's hop schedule....I hope the tasty goes through to the final, omg so good.

 

[Mofoa]

What are your thoughts on doing 10 lbs of marris otter instead. It what I have on hand already...and a lot.of it.

I realize it is deviating so I don't expect it to be a clone...just wondering if this is no a good idea...all other ingredients will be the same otherwise

Thanks

 

[Mofoa]

Please disregard. Don't have enough Cent. hops.

Going to brew something entirely different. Basically it's "What Ever Is On Hand IPA".

What are your thoughts on doing 10 lbs of marris otter instead. It what I have on hand already...and a lot.of it.

I realize it is deviating so I don't expect it to be a clone...just wondering if this is no a good idea...all other ingredients will be the same otherwise

Thanks

 

[roadrocket13]

has this been posted yet?

https://imgur.com/r/Homebrewing/bfITU9X

 

[Subdivisions]

has this been posted yet?

https://imgur.com/r/Homebrewing/bfITU9X

yep

 

[Garmoni]

has this been posted yet?

https://imgur.com/r/Homebrewing/bfITU9X

So I entered this recipe into my Brewer's Friend software as a 5.5 gallon batch and it has the IBU's at 70.45. Does that sound about right?

 

[jimboj79]

70 seems high... Rough calc I get somewhere around 53-55 IBU.

BTW thanks to the person that posted the zymurgy recipe. I've made the original recipe in this thread several times with great results. I'm intrigued now to brew this version and compare...