American IPA Bell's Two Hearted Ale Clone (close as they come)

[blanchmd]

LOL should have started the last post with my 1st question -- is there a page among the 126 that has the "state of art" recipe? Then the next 2 questions, (i) yeast consensus? (ii) water profile and mash ph?

Thanks

 

[tonymark]

Sorry -- dying to brew this, but don't have time to read 126 pages. 2 more questions, anything like a consensus on yeast? And what is the water profile and mash ph we're shooting for?

Thanks!! This looks awesome.

I like this beer with wy1968, but I just love that yeast. Doesn't finish as dry as some, but the flavor is great and the beer goes bright in under 2 weeks. I can't stand wy1098(s-04).

 

[Apple_Jacker]

I've had nothing but good results with the 1272

 

[MMJfan]

I've had nothing but good results with the 1272

That's my yeast of choice for this recipe as well!

 

[oujens]

LOL should have started the last post with my 1st question -- is there a page among the 126 that has the "state of art" recipe? Then the next 2 questions, (i) yeast consensus? (ii) water profile and mash ph?

Thanks

Page 116 provided a link to the recipe as published by Bells:

http://imgur.com/r/Homebrewing/bfITU9X

It looks like people enjoy both this and the OP recipe. Bells also includes a gypsum addition (4 grams), which I assume would be for RO water. I luckily had a friend who brought some bells beer to me and I'm currently building up a starter. Looking forward to brewing one of these soon.

 

[Sammy86]

Alright folks so I took a sample today day 11 and got an FG of 1.006...apparent attenuation of 90%...pat on the back to me...7.6 ABV...Sample tasted great...I added my dry hops will let them mingle for five days, cold crash and keg...will be ready for my family BBQ on the 30th...very excited about this batch!

The sample was very balanced like the original and it was a little lighter then I remember guess I'll have to go over the boarder to NY and get a six pack to compare!

Cheers!

 

[Sammy86]

Alright fellow Brewers here is the first pint pulled with my WY1098.

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Lighting isn't the best but comparing it to online photos it looks pretty close. Next week I'm gonna try to get my hands on some BTHA and compare side by side.

Taste is very well balanced not too sweet not to bitter I very much enjoy it and will add it to the rotation!

Cheers and thanks for the recipe OP!

 

[catdaddy66]

I just decided to make this my next beer. One variable I have seen being discussed was the yeast. Several of those mentioned I have but I wanna be radical!! Woo hoo! Lol

I have seen the choices of the chico strains, so-4 and wlp007, and wyeast 1272. I was wondering if anyone had used Cry Havoc with this recipe?

I just got some and after reading very little about this stuff I am willing to try it out. Just wondered about any personal experience you guys may have had with the yeast in general AND with this beer.

 

[Apple_Jacker]

Just brewed this one again on Saturday using a (mostly) extract recipe, and 1272 for the yeast. This is my first beer since last summer. I'm ready to get back into brewing again!

 

[brewski09]

I just decided to make this my next beer. One variable I have seen being discussed was the yeast. Several of those mentioned I have but I wanna be radical!! Woo hoo! Lol



I have seen the choices of the chico strains, so-4 and wlp007, and wyeast 1272. I was wondering if anyone had used Cry Havoc with this recipe?



I just got some and after reading very little about this stuff I am willing to try it out. Just wondered about any personal experience you guys may have had with the yeast in general AND with this beer.

Disclaimer, not a perfect yeast for this beer but it will work well.

Cry havoc is an awesome yeast. It works well for this beer too. Mid 60s is pretty clean more like Chico ale but not as hop forward. 68-71 is mild British ale characteristics, much above 72-73 and you get some off flavors but that was true of all yeasts to me. And yes, you can lager with this one too, mild sulfur character and everything (and if you come a little high on the temp for lager yeast it doesn't really kick out off flavors, just less lager yeast characteristics). It's been a while since I've used this one but I do love it.

 

[Revvy]

Disclaimer, not a perfect yeast for this beer but it will work well.

Cry havoc is an awesome yeast. It works well for this beer too. Mid 60s is pretty clean more like Chico ale but not as hop forward. 68-71 is mild British ale characteristics, much above 72-73 and you get some off flavors but that was true of all yeasts to me. And yes, you can lager with this one too, mild sulfur character and everything (and if you come a little high on the temp for lager yeast it doesn't really kick out off flavors, just less lager yeast characteristics). It's been a while since I've used this one but I do love it.

Over a decade brewing, and have written about the history of Papazian's famous yeast.... and I STILL haven't actually used Cry Havoc yet. damn, just realized that.

 

[tellyho]

Just brewed this today, a few alterations: hop extract for bittering, moved the 1 min hop addition to flameout and did 1/2 hr hopstand because I think it's critical for any IPA. Pitched s05 and will dry hop with 1 oz because I hate having leftover hops.

 

[orangemen5]

Just brewed this today, a few alterations: hop extract for bittering, moved the 1 min hop addition to flameout and did 1/2 hr hopstand because I think it's critical for any IPA. Pitched s05 and will dry hop with 1 oz because I hate having leftover hops.

How many ml of hop extract did you use. I use around 25-30ml to bitter on a Pliny clone. Just curious how much you used.

 

[Biscuits]

I brewed Norther Brewers all grain clone about 2 months ago and poured a pint last night. I haven't compared it side by side to the real thing but it tastes great. I think the key is the Rahr 2 row...I never realized how much different it is from Briess.

 

[KennyPowers55]

Brewed this today with a slightly different hop schedule. Missed the OG by a small amount. Hoping this turns out well to make it my always on tap kinda beer.

 

[tellyho]

I can't remember how much extract I used. The equivalent IBUS to the ounce of centennial in the recipe for bittering.

 

[WarEagleBrewer]

Brewed this yesterday. Had all kind of (bleep)ing issues. I'm in the process of converting to a BIAB/No sparge process. I can only batch sparge in my 10 gallon cooler with a grain bill this large...and I don't have my MLT specific bag yet....so I used a 5 gallon paint strainer bag. BIG MISTAKE. Bag wasn't long enough, got dough balls, grain came out of bag, stuck sparge, etc. Thankfully I had been drinking and was in a "F'it, whatever" frame of mind. I got a 1.049 OG on 5.5 gallons (preboil was a pitiful 1.036). So this should be a very weak, very poor copy. Maybe it will drink good

 

[catdaddy66]

My current batch is chugging along 5 days in...

 

[TorMag]

Question, can you still harvest yeast from Bells TH? Bought a six pack to try harvesting so I can make this, I don't see any sediment on the bottom of the bottles.

Thanks

 

[IslandLizard]

Question, can you still harvest yeast from Bells TH? Bought a six pack to try harvesting so I can make this, I don't see any sediment on the bottom of the bottles.

Thanks

Just get a pack of WY1272. That's the strain Bell uses.

 

[TorMag]

Just get a pack of WY1272. That's the strain Bell uses.

Thanks Lizard

 

[WarEagleBrewer]

Question, can you still harvest yeast from Bells TH? Bought a six pack to try harvesting so I can make this, I don't see any sediment on the bottom of the bottles.

Thanks

Yup. Harvested some from bottles that were bottled in February.

 

[TorMag]

Yup. Harvested some from bottles that were bottled in February.

Cool. The beer has been in the flask for about 12 hours now with the wort, and I can definitely see something forming on the bottom of the flask. This is my first attempt at yeast harvesting.

 

[TorMag]

Nice yeast cloud forming on the bottom of my flask for the yeast harvest

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[KennyPowers55]

I made this recipe and added some citra hops and altered the additions a little bit. It came out pretty solid (according to me). Going to try to make it again.

 

[Revvy]

I made this recipe and added some citra hops and altered the additions a little bit. It came out pretty solid (according to me). Going to try to make it again.

This grainbill, and hopping regimen and base IBU/sg numbers are my base for just about all IPAs I brew, I just change up the hops. I've done all citra before. In fact I'm probably going to brew an all citra version as my next brew.

Last year I started playing around with two-hop pairings using this grainbill, got a lot of great suggestions from people in this thread.. Done a few so far.

 

[WarEagleBrewer]

I transferred my weak attempt to a keg for dry hopping last night. The sample was delicious. It went from 1.049 to 1.009, so I've got a 5.25% pale something or the other. Can't wait to get this on tap. I'm definitely going to try this recipe again once I get my new BIAB system figured out.

 

[GrogNerd]

This grainbill, and hopping regimen and base IBU/sg numbers are my base for just about all IPAs I brew,

oh, yes.

if you hit on a good malt base for an IPA, it should work for almost any IPA

happened to me while trying to clone Devil's Backbone 8-point IPA. hops were way off, not a clone at all, but dang the malt base was good.

best version of it was when I combined it with hops side of this thread's OP

 

[GOOCHY]

Is there a consensus on whether the grain bill in the OP or the one Bell's has provided in the past is a better base?

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/bells-two-hearted-ale-clone/

 

[Cartman98]

Anyone use WLP005 British Ale? I ended up getting this from the brew store instead of the original Safale 04. Now I've read more of the thread, I'm wishing I had went with 1272.