Beer Cellar thread - real cellars, closet cellars, fridge cellars, freezer cellars, wine coolers

[Hayden McCall]

Honest question. Do fruited berliners age well?

Like anything else. Maybe. I've had a bunch of the first batch stuff from DG lately and it's been fabulous. Still, I try to drink the DG stuff within 2-3 months of getting it. This will all be gone by summer's end.

 

[matedog]

Like anything else. Maybe. I've had a bunch of the first batch stuff from DG lately and it's been fabulous. Still, I try to drink the DG stuff within 2-3 months of getting it. This will all be gone by summer's end.

DG's aren't traditional berliners because they are oak aged right? And they aren't lacto exclusive (ie have brett and probably pick up some pedio in the oak aging process?). I'm a bit green on this, so I'll allow someone else to chime in more authoritatively.

 

[BadJustin]

DG's aren't traditional berliners because they are oak aged right? And they aren't lacto exclusive (ie have brett and probably pick up some pedio in the oak aging process?). I'm a bit green on this, so I'll allow someone else to chime in more authoritatively.

degardebrewing

 

[doobliebop1]

Traditional berliners can have brett, and if you think back to when the style originates from they were likely stored in oak barrels...

 

[thefleshlight]

DG's aren't traditional berliners because they are oak aged right? And they aren't lacto exclusive (ie have brett and probably pick up some pedio in the oak aging process?). I'm a bit green on this, so I'll allow someone else to chime in more authoritatively.

AFAIK, it's all wild-fermented from the coolship/open air. So they may hold up like a lambic... idk.

 

[Dsal891]

This just arrived today. 173 bottle wine cooler. I'm expecting it to hold probably 150ish lambic bottles which I'm hoping for at the very least since I bought it for that exact reason. I haven't updated my counts yet but they should be able to fit in there with some room to spare (hopefully)



Converting my old chest freezer to a kegerator after I move the stock over to it.

 

[maximthegreat]

150 for a 173 bottle cooler is VERY optimistic in my opinion. I'd guess closer to 100.

 

[Dsal891]

150 for a 173 bottle cooler is VERY optimistic in my opinion. I'd guess closer to 100.

Well....****. I'm gonna have a ton of overage then

 

[PepeSylvia1]

Well....****. I'm gonna have a ton of overage then

ISO: your overage

 

[Dsal891]

Can actually fit 145 (could probably push for 150)

Didn't have as much as I thought I did. Out about 12 bottles in the fridge to consume which I'm looking forward to. Only have about 112 bottles in the cellar. Less than I highly but still very happy

 

[RyanG1]

Fairly new temperature controlled cellar.

Lambic side of the cellar.

It is a work in progress.

 

[GetchaPull]

Fairly new temperature controlled cellar.

Lambic side of the cellar.

It is a work in progress.

Need to send you some real maple syrupseseses so you can ditch that Log Cabin mess.

Good choice on the Muscle Milk though.

 

[BadJustin]

Need to send you some real maple syrupseseses so you can ditch that Log Cabin mess.

Good choice on the Muscle Milk though.

Lemme know when you ship. Bro needs Hellmans, not that knock off crap.

 

[ridglens]

Fairly new temperature controlled cellar.

Lambic side of the cellar.

It is a work in progress.

"how embarrassing... a fridge full of condiments with no food"

 

[tosh1]

Fairly new temperature controlled cellar.

Lambic side of the cellar.

It is a work in progress.

Couple of questions. why have you got unopened tins (of dog food? and Tuna) in the fridge?
Trader Joe's Sriracha sauce, really?
Safeway Yellow mustard? Sad
I see fake butter, but no real butter. I hope it is real butter hiding in that blue butter dish?
What is in the pan on the bottom shelf?
Finally, you are meant to buy the Baking Soda with the removable sides to help with fridge odors.

 

[RyanG1]

Couple of questions. why have you got unopened tins (of dog food? and Tuna) in the fridge?
Trader Joe's Sriracha sauce, really?
Safeway Yellow mustard? Sad
I see fake butter, but no real butter. I hope it is real butter hiding in that blue butter dish?
What is in the pan on the bottom shelf?
Finally, you are meant to buy the Baking Soda with the removable sides to help with fridge odors.

Gobshite

 

[thefleshlight]

Couple of questions. why have you got unopened tins (of dog food? and Tuna) in the fridge?
Trader Joe's Sriracha sauce, really?
Safeway Yellow mustard? Sad
I see fake butter, but no real butter. I hope it is real butter hiding in that blue butter dish?
What is in the pan on the bottom shelf?
Finally, you are meant to buy the Baking Soda with the removable sides to help with fridge odors.

The exact reason why food dries out in the fridge is why you shouldn't keep corked beers in a regular fridge like this. Ignoring the vibrations and all...

 

[neorunner]

Figure I should post an updated photo as I am no longer cellaring my beer in a bathtub.

I've added another 3 rows to the top of this and it's basically full. Slowly weeding out the AWAs and replacing with mead.

 

[jtmartino1]

The exact reason why food dries out in the fridge is why you shouldn't keep corked beers in a regular fridge like this. Ignoring the vibrations and all...

How do vibrations affect the beer?

 

[Patoo]

How do vibrations affect the beer?

 

[kzeon]

How do vibrations affect the beer?

The same way gravity affects the beer I presume?

 

[jtmartino1]

The same gravity affects the beer I presume?

 

[drgarage1]

Lance Armstrong is looking well.

 

[stupac2]

How do vibrations affect the beer?

I assume he's thinking it stirs up the dregs, but unless your fridge is actually a washing machine I don't think that would be an issue. (Most wine fridges have compressors anyway...)

 

[jedwards]

The vibrations thing is a carryover from the wine world, where it's often said that it's bad for wine (specifically, that's it's the cause of "travel sickness"), but there doesn't seem to be any good evidence for this and many people have done experiments which do not indicate that vibrations affect the quality of wine in the short term. I have heard assertions that it's a long-term problem relating to increased contact with the lees, but it seems unlikely that stirred up versus compacted lees would make much of a difference within the bottle. If the vibrations were so severe that dregs were stirred up into the bottle, you wouldn't be able to serve the product without settling it elsewhere anyways.

 

[jtmartino1]

Vibrations may increase metabolic and oxidizing activity, just like heat. But unless that vibration was violent, it wouldn't be significant. And even then, in an anaerobic environment, it may not be a big issue.

For reference, yeast incubators shake the flasks (under warm conditions) which causes yeast propagation far quicker than leaving the media still. But it's aerobic, and tons of edible media available.

 

[thefleshlight]

How do vibrations affect the beer?

Yes, as jtmartino said from the wine world, it is shown to increase oxidation rate, even in refrigerators. Wine cooler fridges are shimmed with dampers to keep the vibrations transferring to chassis of the unit. A simple fix could help with the vibration from a refrigerator too if you have half of a brain and spend a minutes and a few dollars.

 

[barleywinefiend]

A few years ago I had to downsize for several reasons but my commercial refrigerator compressors kept seizing up and costing me bookoo money to fix. I sold them, downsized, and now my sweet beauties hang out in my wifes nick-nack closet. It is air-conditioned and I keep it pretty damn cold in the house. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do....

 

[kzeon]

A few years ago I had to downsize for several reasons but my commercial refrigerator compressors kept seizing up and costing me bookoo money to fix. I sold them, downsized, and now my sweet beauties hang out in my wifes nick-nack closet. It is air-conditioned and I keep it pretty damn cold in the house. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do....

Holy molly... That's a sick bw stash!

 

[stupac2]

Holy molly... That's a sick bw stash!

Funny, my reaction was "dear god that's a lot of beer to get rid of". Different strokes...