Kölsch Bee Cave Brewery Kölsch

[Flywheel]

Edwort or someone smarter than I,

What (other than beer) would I have if I brewed these recipe with Wyeast 2112?
Would it be close to a Kolsch? Or closer to a CA steam beer?

Thanks

I'd say steam. Kolsch needs a Kolsch Ale yeast, 2112 is a lager yeast. Are you just a big Rush fan and only want to use 2112? But the flavor profile would be very similar. I've never used 2112, but I have used Wyeast Kolsch and it is very crisp and clean.

 

[Allsup]

Not a big Rush fan. I just have some harvested 2112 yeast of a CA Common I did a couple weeks ago.

 

[kryolla]

I'm going to make this tomorrow for New Years Eve party. I have my 1L starter on a stir plate. Also sipping on Eds Hefe

EDIT:Everything went good and hit mash temp of 152 and got good eff so I added some water at the end of the boil to get down to 1.054. Started with 7g and after water additions I ended up at 6g post boil. Im going to start lower my eff when I do these recipes which will cause me to add water instead of boiling longer. Refractometer and sight glass helps on hitting OG. Its fermenting in my keezer at 60*. Next time I need to add rice hulls

Bulk Grains at 50 cents a pound
8 lbs German pils
2 lbs German malted wheat

 

[a_w_taylor]

So I went to my LHBS to get the bill for this to brew tomorrow night.

I think I might have misspoken when ordering - but I now have 10lbs of pilsen mixed with my 2.5lbs wheat. Not the 8#/2.5# ratio this recipe calls for.

I got 2oz of perle and 2oz. of tetnang to have extra.

Any suggestions on what to do to keep this relatively on target? My efficiency for the only AG I have done is 80%.

Thanks!

AT

 

[kryolla]

EDIT 12-23

I decided to make a second batch and pitch it onto the yeast cake.

8 lbs german pils
1.5 lbs german wheat
.5 lbs vienna

1 oz amarillo 60min

 

[msa8967]

Has anyone had success brewing this recipe using either Nottingham or US-05? I have each of these on hand but not any liquid kolsch style yeast. I would have to order this since there is no LHBS within 75+ miles.

 

[midfielder5]

the yeast is the one thing that makes it a kolsch. but to answer your direct question: no, sorry.

 

[neovox]

Wow, very clear and a great taste after 18 days in the primary. Going to drop the temp for a few days then bottle since I don't have any taps free at the moment.

 

[RLinNH]

Just tapped my 2nd. Keg of this, and I gotta say it is a delightful treat. I am enjoying it a lot more then I thought I would. Matter of fact, I just ordered 2 more bags of German Pilsner and 1 more bag of German Light Wheat so that I can have this beer on tap all the time. Easy Grain bill, easy hop schedule, and a tasty beer. It's a winner all around. Thanks Ed!!!

 

[Sudtirol]

I am going to brew this one for the first time this Friday, from everything I have read here about it, this will be one fantastic beer. Sounds like it may even be one of my house beers!! The other being EdWorts Haus Pale Ale which will be bottled this Friday!

 

[EricT]

This one has made my list of future brews. I'm still in search of my house brew.

EDIT Since I've never had a Kolsch before, I decided to try one before I decide to make it. The only one I found was Iron Fist Renegade Blonde which is a Kolsch style blonde ale. Not sure if this is what you made but its damn good regardless.

 

[markcurling]

I fancy giving this a try, but I've got a garage full of Maris Otter. Would replacing the pils with maris otter have a 'slight' change on the flavour or make an entirely different beer?!

 

[a_w_taylor]

entirely different beer

 

[EdWort]

entirely different beer

that's an understatement.

Stick with German Pils & Wheat malt, along with German Hops, and German Yeast for this wonderful German Bier!

 

[markcurling]

Haha ok point taken, I'll put this on the back-burner for a couple of weeks!

 

[rockytoptim]

What boil time did you guys use for this? The recipe calls for 60 minute boil. I haven't made anything with Pilsner malt but everything I have read said you should boil for 90 min to avoid DMS? If I boil for 90 minutes do I still keep the same hop schedule 60 min, 15 & 5?

Thanks in advance

 

[neovox]

In the past I've done 90min boils when using Pilsner malt. I did a 60min with this one based on the recipe. I had no issues with DMS. The beer tastes awesome. I had the same question when I first read the recipe, but I've also read that many modern Pilsner malts are modified enough to not require a 90min boil.

 

[EricT]

Any issues with stuck sparges with this recipe? I plan to make this on Saturday and have never brewed anything with wheat malt. I picked up Rice hulls just in case.

 

[a_w_taylor]

I had zero problems sans rice hulls.

I also did a 60min boil and it turned out great.

 

[neovox]

I mash in a cooler with a ss braid and batch sparge. I didn't use hulls either and had no issues.

 

[EricT]

Ok, thanks for the replies, I'll skip the hulls then.

 

[EricT]

Brewing this tomorrow morning on the new brew rig. Cant wait!

 

[EricT]

Wow, this is one smelly yeast.

 

[RLinNH]

I throw a hand full of rice hulls into every batch for sparging reasons. I'm also brewing this beer for the second time this morning.

 

[EricT]

I throw a hand full of rice hulls into every batch for sparging reasons. I'm also brewing this beer for the second time this morning.

I have had stuck sparges with my SS Braid in the past (I think my LHBS crush is too fine) but I have learned to just raised my grain bed temp right before I collect my first running's and then sparge as normal. This was my concern with the target mash temp of 151 and using wheat. When I have higher mash temp recipe's around 156 it doesn't seem to be a problem. Happy Brew Day

 

[EricT]

Well, its brewed. Lets see how it turns out.

 

[400d]

hey guys, could I substitute malted wheat from this recipe with flaked wheat?

 

[EricT]

hey guys, could I substitute malted wheat from this recipe with flaked wheat?

Did a search for malted Wheat vs Flaked wheat and this is one of the posts. I would stick with the Malted for this beer.
http://www.google.com/url?q=https:/...QQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNENYdHjgjpH_36g480TfMuECrBQow

 

[EricT]

So its been fermenting for about 48 hours, I went to check on it and immediately installed a blow off Tube. With 5.75 gallons in the primary and a 1L yeast starter it was just too much for my carboy. Hehe, First time I ever needed one.

 

[neovox]

I'm down to my last few.... time to brew. Looks great!