American Pale Ale Bee Cave Brewery Haus Pale Ale

[solavirtus]

Welcome to a great hobby!

You will have to prime with some kind of fermentable sugar to carbonate. A simple sugar like table sugar or corn sugar is most commonly used. Check out the Kegging/Bottling forum for lots of information.

 

[paulster2626]

FG has been hit. Tastes a tad yeasty still. Hoping a 2-day 34F cold crash will knock out the yeast and clear it up. Now keg or bottle, that is the question...

 

[Chuckabrewski]

As my "first ever" brew, I am planning on doing this. I am jumping straight onto AG, since here in Istanbul I do not have access to brew kits etc.

I am planning on bottling Ed's original recipe. I see that everyone is kegging, so here is my (probably silly) newbie question: should I do anything to carbonate, such as adding priming sugars?

Yes boil a cup of water with 5 oz priming sugar. Add that to your bottling bucket and rack your beer on top of it.

 

[jammin]

Yes boil a cup of water with 5 oz priming sugar. Add that to your bottling bucket and rack your beer on top of it.

I find that 3oz of priming sugar for a 5 gallon batch gives perfect carbonation. Im sure 5oz would lead to over carbonation.

 

[Chuckabrewski]

I find that 3oz of priming sugar for a 5 gallon batch gives perfect carbonation. Im sure 5oz would lead to over carbonation.

5oz is the standard that comes with all the kits. The ratio id 1oz per gallon.

 

[jammin]

5oz is the standard that comes with all the kits. The ratio id 1oz per gallon.

It's too much in my experience. Have you had consistent good results with that amount?

 

[Chuckabrewski]

It's too much in my experience. Have you had consistent good results with that amount?

Every time man

 

[jammin]

Every time man

Guess I'm more in line with this published info:
http://www.brewersfriend.com/beer-priming-calculator/

I wonder why you can get away with so much more dextrose. I imagine your beer is very fizzy.

 

[Chuckabrewski]

Guess I'm more in line with this published info:
http://www.brewersfriend.com/beer-priming-calculator/

I wonder why you can get away with so much more dextrose. I imagine your beer is very fizzy.

Never had a fizzy beer and I use the full 5oz every time. 5 oz is the standard that comes with brew kits you can use more or less depending on vol of co2 desired.

 

[calebstringer]

What difference would using two row make instead of pale ale malt, as the original recipe calls for?

 

[lunshbox]

What difference would using two row make instead of pale ale malt, as the original recipe calls for?

It would have less of a malty, breadyness to it. Pale ale malt is typically more bready than regular 2 row brewers malt.

 

[DSmith]

What difference would using two row make instead of pale ale malt, as the original recipe calls for?

I think the original recipe calls for [American] 2-Row malt, not a pale ale malt since it's meant to be an economical beer.

The Vienna malt goes well with the [American] 2-Row malt IMO and might be harder to distinguish if the base malt was more "malty".

You might want to look at the CBYI Deschutes Mirror Pond for an APA with US pale ale malt.

 

[paulster2626]

Bottled mine up last night. Got a massive haul out of this - 60 bottles! The hydro sample was so delicious that instead of getting those last ounces of beer in to a bottle at the end, I just drank it.

This is going to be for by bro-in-law's birthday, so it should be a success!

 

[cublue]

It's too much in my experience. Have you had consistent good results with that amount?

I use a carbonation calculator app on my phone. Match the style and amount of beer, gives the standard range of volumes. Calculates for corn sugar, table sugar (sucrose), or kegging pressure. I go for middle of the recommended road often. Remember add sugar by weight, not volume.

But either way, you'll get beer and learn something. Have fun, and welcome!

 

[fireslayer]

I think i'm going to try this recipe with a combination of simcoe/amarillo. Anyone else used these hops for this recipe? If so how much and how did it turn out?

 

[Willie3]

What difference would using two row make instead of pale ale malt, as the original recipe calls for?

They are the similar if not the same. 2 Row Palt malt is a descriptor defining how the barley grows on the stalk ... in two rows. There is also six row, grown in six rows on the stalk. It has a higher diastatic power than two row, grown in North America and used in North American Pilsners along with other adjuncts such as rice and corn. It was developed back in the earlier days of North American Settlement in hopes to save money by being able to use less barley .

Pale Malt is pale malt. Malters as well as region and country make the difference, but pale is pale and is the basis for most beer.

 

[Temp81]

Made two 5 gallon batches of this over the weekend. First one exactly how the recipe is put together for all grain. But the second one I used some simcoe hops that I had left over from another brew. I used an ounce total. Put in .5oz 60 min, .25oz 30 min, and .25oz at 10 min. We shall see how they turn out. Looking forward to these brews.

 

[bfinleyui]

This will be my first no-extract BIAB recipe, scaling it down to 3 gallons and rounding hops/fermentables to easier totals (don't have a scale yet), this is what I came up with from Brewers Friend:

Batch Size: 3 gallons
Boil Size: 4 gallons
Boil Time: 60 minutes
Efficiency: 65%


4.5 lbs American Pale 2-row
1 lb Vienna
0.5 lb Crystal 10L

.5 oz Cascade @ 60 minutes
.25 oz Cascade @ 30 minutes
.25 oz Cascade @ 15 minutes
.25 oz Cascade @ 5 minutes


Mash at 152, pitch rehydrated nottingham at 68.

Brewersfriend gives me the following numbers on it:

1.048 OG, 1.011 FG, 4.84 ABV, 43.59 IBU, 4.92 SRM


Am I missing anything in this conversion that shouldn't work, or someplace I should tweak? (Was thinking maybe a little more 10L, to get over 5 SRM, and into the American Pale Ale style?)

 

[cublue]

Looks ok to me, roughly. You can either bump up the weight on the crystal, OR and what I would do is bump up the color of the crystal. Maybe go up to 40L? I also use brewers' friend, cause I am a budget brewer too, but I recommend a scale. It is as important as a good thermometer. You could also adjust the times a little, plus or minus to hit the ibu you are looking for...

But like I said your scaling doesn't look bad. I like to lean toward late addition hops, especially in pale apes, cause I LOVE that aroma!

 

[bfinleyui]

Looks ok to me, roughly. You can either bump up the weight on the crystal, OR and what I would do is bump up the color of the crystal. Maybe go up to 40L? I also use brewers' friend, cause I am a budget brewer too, but I recommend a scale. It is as important as a good thermometer. You could also adjust the times a little, plus or minus to hit the ibu you are looking for...

But like I said your scaling doesn't look bad. I like to lean toward late addition hops, especially in pale apes, cause I LOVE that aroma!

Yeah, the scale is on my "hope I get it for Christmas otherwise I'm buying it for myself" list. But I need to squeeze one more brew in before Xmas.

Good idea on upping the color, i'll probably just bump the color to keep it down in the gravity range. Thanks for the response, i'll probably order tonight from wherever ends up the cheapest. Probably Austin, i want to grab some of their mystery hop dust for a smaller batch ipa later.

 

[cublue]

Wow. Pale apes...

Autocorrect is awesome!!

 

[cublue]

Yeah no prob.

I plugged in 60L too, but that can add a fruity sweetness (not unpleasant, but wrong for this style), but you work get almost 10 srm while the 40 will get ya 7 and change, where I like my pales.

 

[DSmith]

This will be my first no-extract BIAB recipe, scaling it down to 3 gallons and rounding hops/fermentables to easier totals (don't have a scale yet), this is what I came up with from Brewers Friend:

Batch Size: 3 gallons
Boil Size: 4 gallons
Boil Time: 60 minutes
Efficiency: 65%


4.5 lbs American Pale 2-row
1 lb Vienna
0.5 lb Crystal 10L

.5 oz Cascade @ 60 minutes
.25 oz Cascade @ 30 minutes
.25 oz Cascade @ 15 minutes
.25 oz Cascade @ 5 minutes


Mash at 152, pitch rehydrated nottingham at 68.

Brewersfriend gives me the following numbers on it:

1.048 OG, 1.011 FG, 4.84 ABV, 43.59 IBU, 4.92 SRM


Am I missing anything in this conversion that shouldn't work, or someplace I should tweak? (Was thinking maybe a little more 10L, to get over 5 SRM, and into the American Pale Ale style?)

Here's the recipe scaled for 3.5 gallons. It's for 70% efficiency - I check pre-boil gravity and remove some wort/replace with water if the mash efficiency is high. I'd use 75% next time (multiply my grain weights by 0.9333), no change to hops, maybe 154F mash.

Edwort’s Haus Pale Ale —From Homebrewtalk
Ingredients

Batch Size (Gal): 3.5 Gal End of Boil
Total Grain (Lbs): 7.15
Anticipated Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.043, 0.75 gal/hr Evaporation Rate
Anticipated OG: 1.052, 70% Mash Efficiency
Anticipated SRM: 4.5 SRM
Anticipated IBU: 41.4 IBU (Rager)
Mash Efficiency: 70%
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Est Final Gravity: 1.011
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.3%

5.45 lb, Rahr American 2-Row 1.8L
1.36 lb or 617 g Weyermann Vienna Malt 3.1L
0.34 lb or 154 g Briess Caramel 10L

Cascade Hops 6.8%, 0.64 oz or 18.04 g, 30.4 IBU
Cascade Hops 6.8%, 0.32 oz or 9.02 g, 7.7 IBU
Cascade Hops 6.8%, 0.16 oz or 4.51 g, 2.0 IBU
Cascade Hops 6.8%, 0.16 oz or 4.51 g, 1.3 IBU

Wyeast 1056 American Ale
Mash at 152F for 60 min

KITCHEN SCALES

I'd recommend this scale for hops (100g max, 0.01 increments), about $10:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003STEJ20/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

 

[Wheelspin]

Brewed my frist all grain Hause Pale Ale in my recently completed HERMS system yesterday.

Everything went really well, but I have a few questions if anyone can help me.

1) The dough-in water specified is 11 liters. When I put 11 liters into the grains it barely made the the grains damp - landed up with about 16 liters.

2) My OG came out at 1,059, not the 1.050 as per recipe. This seems a little high ? Maybe I miss measured the grains which could explain the extra dough - in water required as well as the higher OG.

3) Finally, when it came to aerating the wort, the aquarium pump would not work so I shook the fermenter quite violently for about 5 minutes. Can I re-aerate the wort with a new aeration pump tonight or will this result in off flavours ? It is bubbling away quite nicely as we speak but I'm scared that it will use up all the available oxygen too quickly and spot fermenting.

Any comment much appreciated.

 

[andycr]

I'd recommend this scale for hops (100g max, 0.01 increments), about $10:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003STEJ20/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

+1, love mine. Really great for measuring out .01 grams of water salts, too.

 

[scottvin]

So after 4 months in the bottle I just cracked one open and find zero hops aroma and minimal flavor. As this was my first Pale Ale (or IPA), is this normal after 4 months?

Thanks!

 

[DSmith]

+1, love mine. Really great for measuring out .01 grams of water salts, too.

Agreed. Used it last night for measuring a crush campden tablet, water salts, acidulated malt & hops.

 

[LAbrewer]

So after 4 months in the bottle I just cracked one open and find zero hops aroma and minimal flavor. As this was my first Pale Ale (or IPA), is this normal after 4 months?

Thanks!

Not normal imo. What was the OG and FG? I made an extract version last year with extra extract and it wasn't great but definitely drinkable. I plan to do an all grain version next exactly as written in the OP.

 

[scottvin]

Not normal imo. What was the OG and FG? I made an extract version last year with extra extract and it wasn't great but definitely drinkable. I plan to do an all grain version next exactly as written in the OP.

SG - 1.050
FG - 1.012

It was drinkable but bland..

 

[DSmith]

Not normal imo. What was the OG and FG? I made an extract version last year with extra extract and it wasn't great but definitely drinkable. I plan to do an all grain version next exactly as written in the OP.

I agree that it's not normal. I have a batch made on 17-Sept (about 3 months) that is great or better than at two months.