American Pale Ale Bee Cave Brewery Haus Pale Ale

[StrmStlkr]

I just brewed this as my second all grain and so far so good. My question is about how long to leave in the primary. I have read alot of this thread and see that most references were still around ten days but this thread is pretty old. I know there has been a recent push to leave ales on the primary for 4 weeks and that is what I have been adhering too. I am just wondering if anyone does a long primary on this recipe or if everyone is sticking to the original tenish days, thanks.

 

[platypotamus]

I also got serious lager qualities out of mine. So next I will be making this again but with noble hops, heavy on the spalt and mittelfrueh.

I like this idea. Did you end up doing this?

Ed's Kolsch recipe is mighty tempting, as well.

 

[jgourd]

I like this idea. Did you end up doing this?

Ed's Kolsch recipe is mighty tempting, as well.

Yup! I planned to make 5 batches, all single hop, and all with noble hops. I made the Saaz first, followed by Spalt, Hallertauer Mit., and Hersbrucker. I will make the Tettnang soon. So far, I've kegged and sample the first two. The Hallertauer is currently carbonating in the keg, and the Hersbrucker is crash cooling. My favorite so far is the Spalt. It has qualities similar to the Sam Adams Noble Pils, albeit subtle. Most will be taken to a crawfish boil this coming weekend (at least the first three). I have alsmo made 10 more gallons of the original with Cascade. It will be taken to a wedding at the end of the month.

 

[cliffyj]

Hi, Razorbrewer, i use this to work out hops of different %...
http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/hop_calculations.htm#hopsubcalc

Not sure about the 2nd row,i don,t know what this means myself, but i take it to be a cheaper grain, i maybe wrong.
I use Maris otter.

 

[Stout1]

I just brewed this as my second all grain and so far so good. My question is about how long to leave in the primary. I have read alot of this thread and see that most references were still around ten days but this thread is pretty old. I know there has been a recent push to leave ales on the primary for 4 weeks and that is what I have been adhering too. I am just wondering if anyone does a long primary on this recipe or if everyone is sticking to the original tenish days, thanks.

If you use Nottingham, 10ish days should be fine. Notty tends to really go nuts at around 68F, which can be a problem if you don't have good temp control of your fermentation. The fermentation will start generating it's own heat and spiral out of control, if you let it. I usually use it at about 65 - 66, and it will definitely finish in 10 days. A week or two of conditioning in the primary or keg almost always produces clear beer for me.

 

[razorbrewer]

Can anyone tell me if the correct grain is 2-Row or Pale Ale Malt if ordering from Austin Homebrew?

 

[platypotamus]

Can anyone tell me if the correct grain is 2-Row or Pale Ale Malt if ordering from Austin Homebrew?

either one should be perfectly fine, but I would go with the 2-Row, though, as it should be a bit "cleaner" and is slightly lighter in color.

their "Pale Ale Malt" listing says - "Pale Ale is slightly darker than Brewer's 2-Row, providing a rich malt flavor and additional color. It is traditionally used in Englsih ales. This malt may be used for up to 100% of mash grains."

again, fairly similar, but since this is an APA, go with the plainold 2-row (probably Breiss?). you want this crisp and clean, with that nice Vienna character coming through.

I agree that it is pretty annoying that Austin Homebrew doesn't tell you specifically what the grain actually is, who the maltster is, etc, though.

 

[BeerPressure]

Haus was the first AG recipe I've ever brewed, and I am gonna revisit it shortly.

 

[HItransplant]

Just did my first batch of this on monday. Everything went smooth and I was able to knock it out in 4 hrs-- my fastest all grain batch to date. Simplicity was nice after the BIAB partigyle I did just a few weeks prior. Sample tasted great and fermentation seems to be going well, so im excited to try it again.

hows 2 weeks in primary, 3 in bottle sound to everyone whos done this?

 

[mwhc22]

well both batches i did with the 2 different yeasts fermented out and seem to have finished up within about 4-5 days. today is day 7 total so im going to 2ndary it for 2 days then coldcrash and keg on tuesday/wednesday. they smell pretty good so im excited to see how they turned out

 

[EzMak24]

Kegged this last night and had my first taste today. Reminds me of Founders Pale Ale.

 

[corwin6654]

I dry hopped mine for a week with an ounce of cascade, and bottled today. I must say, this beer is the best I've tasted before bottling. Can't wait for it to carb up. Thanks for the awesome recipe, and so cheap to make too. I paid about $15 for all the ingredients for this batch!

 

[DustBow]

Well I make both the apfelwein and Rye IPA regularly so had to make it an Edwort Trifecta this weekend. LHBS looked to be out of Crystal 10 and I didn't feel like asking or waiting so just used C-20. The Cascade I bought was 8% - isn't that pretty high for Cascade? - so I tweaked the hop schedule slightly to keep the IBUs closer to original recipe. Airlock bubbles less than 12 hours later....looking forward to trying it in a couple weeks.

 

[mrhahkey]

I racked this beer to the sec over the weekend. This was my second a/g and I believe one of my finest brews yet (albeit the 2nd a/g). I only had 4.5gal in the primary after the boil, and I didnt top off. OG 1.052, finished at 1.006. It tasted great out of the hydro tube and will only get better.

 

[markcurling]

Hey guys,

I'm brewing this in a couple of hours and need a quick tip!
I overlooked the fact that there are different types of crystal malts.
The recipe calls for 0.5 lb. Crystal 10L Malt
I have got 0.5 lb of Crystal malt "Maximum Percentage - 20% colour 125EBC".
A quick google of the conversion suggests this is crystal 50L-60L?

To make this recipe close to the original, should I add this in or skip it out?

 

[DustBow]

I think you would want at least some crystal in there....I would use it. Maybe use half of it if you are really worried about it being too different?

 

[markcurling]

Thanks DustBow, it all went it!

Now I just have the unfortunately job of having to empty a keg to make room for it...

 

[HItransplant]

Just took a hydro sample and I'm at 1012 after a week. Sample tasted bready and with no real hop flavor... I'm thinking this is yeast flavor but wanted to see if anyone else had this experience tasting early samples.

 

[scottland]

Just took a hydro sample and I'm at 1012 after a week. Sample tasted bready and with no real hop flavor... I'm thinking this is yeast flavor but wanted to see if anyone else had this experience tasting early samples.

I've never made this beer specifically, but most batches I make taste bready when tasted early. Yes, that's the yeast flavor. For a pale ale you should still taste some bitterness, but the hop flavor will be muted by the yeast. RDWHAHB. It'll most likely taste great when done.

 

[rcooper44537]

this beer has turned me into an alcoholic... thanks ed!

 

[HItransplant]

I've never made this beer specifically, but most batches I make taste bready when tasted early. Yes, that's the yeast flavor. For a pale ale you should still taste some bitterness, but the hop flavor will be muted by the yeast. RDWHAHB. It'll most likely taste great when done.

hey thanks.. I figured, but thats exactly what its like. slight hop aroma, bitter but no hop flavor... only bread.

looking forward to bottling this next week...

does everyone who bottles this crash it before bottling?

if so, what is your technique.. crash overnight before bottling? or longer?

thanks again scottland.

 

[TBoons]

Just took a hydro sample and I'm at 1012 after a week. Sample tasted bready and with no real hop flavor... I'm thinking this is yeast flavor but wanted to see if anyone else had this experience tasting early samples.

Mine sat in the Primary for about 10 days and then in the secondary for about 3 weeks.

I bottled it about 12 days ago. Tried one after a week and had the exact same impression as you. Bready.

Tried a couple last night (still not 100% carbed, but close) and it still had some bready taste and smell. I hope it evens out in a couple more weeks.

 

[HItransplant]

Mine sat in the Primary for about 10 days and then in the secondary for about 3 weeks.

I bottled it about 12 days ago. Tried one after a week and had the exact same impression as you. Bready.

Tried a couple last night (still not 100% carbed, but close) and it still had some bready taste and smell. I hope it evens out in a couple more weeks.

Jeeze... Hope it doesn't take that long. I figured that a relatively small beer like this would be a good one to try a quick turn around on.

 

[vaheel]

Brewed this as my second AG batch. SG came in at 1.054 with just over five gallons in the carboy and pitched Notty. Not sure if the SG will make a big difference, plase chime in with any thoughts.

First time using Cascade hops and really liked the aroma. Thanks for the recipe!

This sat for 16 days in the primary, cold crashing now in a keg. Came in at 1.014. Numbers are a little off, however this is my second AG batch and hoping it will be as good as everyone says.

 

[HItransplant]

Just bottled after 2 weeks in primary.. FG 1012... sample still tastes yeasty. Will this mellow in the bottle?
Is this Nottingham's fault?

I would have let it sit longer but I need it ready by 15th of June an wanted it in bottle for 3 weeks.

Ed says bottle in ten days, so I figured 14 should be plenty.

 

[subwyking]

My first Haus Pale ale. A little less hoppy than I prefer, but this beer is fantastic. It will be a hit this weekend. Hats off to you Ed.

 

[joeybeer]

Here here Ed !! This is my new Haus Pale Ale too !!! Delicious !!!!!

 

[Fijidave12]

Just brewed this today. Definitely looking forward to getting it kegged soon!

 

[mbosco]

I've read through a lot of this, but haven't seen if this was covered. I will be doing a partial boil so need to adjust hops accordingly. I entered the following in beersmith and ended up with 35IBU. Does this sound about right for a 3.25 boil for a 5 gallon batch?

1.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (60 min) Hops 21.2 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (30 min) Hops 10.9 IBU
0.25 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 1.8 IBU
0.25 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (5 min) Hops 0.7 IBU

 

[Mayday99]

Anyone make this with WLP007? Pretty good attenuator and SUPER high flocculation.

I won't be able to cold crash due to a lack of space, and I know this yeast can drop clear without a crash. I actually did a Ruination clone with this yeast, couldn't cold crash and the beer still came out clear even with a ton of trub that made it into the fermentor and pellets dropped straight into primary for dry hop.

I also figure Ed's recipe will be a good one to harvest off of.