American Pale Ale Bee Cave Brewery Haus Pale Ale

[charliec]

I just tried my first batch of this beer. Some of the best damm beer I've had! Ya ought to be be proud Ed, far as know almost 4,000 gallons of this beer has been brewed. I'm going to have to work at keeping this beer on hand.

 

[foltster]

Me and my buddy brewed up 10 gallons of this brew Friday night. Pitched my already aggressively fermenting starter and it seems like its almost finished with primary fermentation already. I will be leaving this one for 3 weeks in primary than secondary for few days to help clear things up.

Looking forward to getting this one on tap in early June!

 

[Frank99]

I'll brew my first batch of this next weekend as I just had the father/brother in law over and I need something on tap that appeals to the mass audience. They weren't quite sure what to do with my Dunkelweizen or Nut Brown Ale.

 

[goose1873]

I was extremely tempted when I saw a post on this thread saying... this beer is like Fireman's 4. Being a Texas ex-pat in Virginia, I'm hoping this beer will be a pleasant reminder of home. I've decided to do the mini-mash and subbed Hallertau for the Cascade to reduce the hop profile a bit to make it more in line with Fireman's 4. Hoping it will be ready for my party I'm having the first week of June. Here is my revised hopping schedule:

1 oz Hallertau 60 Mins
1 oz Hallertau 45 Mins
.5 oz Hallertau 15 Mins
.5 oz Hallertau 5 Mins

I'll report back and let everyone know how it goes.

The cascades give it a nice citrusy summer ale flavor. It may be very good with Hallertau but will be a completely different beer. my .02...

 

[DZzero15]

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I love cascade just as much as the next guy. I just wanted something with a slightly lower IBU to make it more like a true blonde ale and hallertau seemed like the obvious choice. Also, I plan to serve it up at a party with some non-beer aficionados and this seemed like a good compromise. I'll probably brew it with Cascade someday soon. Or I'll load up on cascade and maybe some centennial and make me a citrus/grapefruit hop bomb IPA.

Cheers,

 

[sycotik]

I will be doing my first All-grain as well with this. To do a 10 gallon batch all I need to do is double the recipe on the first page correct? If not, what would change in going from 5 to 10 gallon batch of this?

Thanks

 

[Jughead]

I just racked my first batch of Ed's Pale Ale to secondary. Tastes Great! I made this for the less adventurous friends for my annual Memorial Day camping trip. I think it will be a big hit!:rockin:

 

[Razorbrew]

I think I will be using this to jump into all grain. Very soon!

 

[goose1873]

good choice... its a great summer brew. I have a batch on tap and another in-line

 

[CoalCracker]

I have to say, I must have messed this up somewhere. I'm not digging it. Seems too heavy on the sweeter end. I mashed at 154. Got side tracked so I missed my temp. Still in all, very sweet. Might just need to age a bit. Definitely not ready right out of the fermenter like some have said. It has been kegged and carbed for about a week now. I'm going to give it another few weeks in the keg and see if it balances out. Sat in the fermenter for 3 weeks. From pictures it looks like the SRM is right on, maybe a shade darker but still pretty close.

 

[MilwaukeeBrewGuy]

did you take any hydrometer readings?

 

[wildwest450]

Try dry hopping it. It will only add aroma, but your nose can fool your tastebuds.

 

[Cart]

A week in the bottle and carbed up reasonably. Awesome, and SWMBO really likes it, so score, more support for the hobby, not to mention another convert. Another week to fully carb and mellow a bit and it should be fantastic.

 

[Razorbrew]

I brewed an 8 gallon batch yesterday! My first AG. I put 4 gallons in a corny key to ferment using the Notty yeast, and the remainder in a 5 gallon carboy to ferment using some washed WLP 530 (trappist yeast). Should be an interesting comparison.

I hit an OG of 1.049, a little lower than what the recipe calls for but not bad for my first AG. I'll let you know how it turns out.

I think I will be using this to jump into all grain. Very soon!

 

[bafroom]

well, used this to brew my first AG last night. i screwed up the sparge (actually 2 since i was working with a zapap lauter tun) by not letting it sit long enough. i did manage to keep my temps pretty right (i think they got a little high for the first 10 min...had my thermometer in a cold spot, i guess) even still i got a og of 1.058, so we'll see how it goes!

btw, using my oven to hold the mash temps in my boil kettle kind of sucked. i think i need to scrounge up a cooler.

edit: i figured out my efficiency, which was 84%. not bad for my first time! though, i guess we'll see how it tastes!

 

[smakudwn]

I just kegged a batch of this and i messed up the mash temp because i didn't preheat my mash tun. mashed at 148. On top of that i think i had a bad batch of notty cause it took a while to start off. Well the beer is good but my question is, this seems to be a grapefruit bomb. is that normal? or does the flavor seem more intense because of the mash temp?

 

[Redbeard5289]

Has anyone gotten a really strong yeasty taste from using nottingham yeast with this recipe?

The reason I asked is that I made this brew without any problems with a partial mash recipe, even hit my OG. Fermentation didn't get really active till about 48-60 hours after I pitched the Notty yeast. (I think my pack was getting old). Left the beer sit in the primary for 8 days then bottled it with about 5 oz corn sugar. Got about a 1/2 bottle to sample from what was left after bottling. The sample was really great considering it hadn't carbed up. Let the brew bottle condition for 2 weeks in the dark closet at 63-65ºF. I put a couple in the fridge this am and my neighbor and I sampled the finished product tonight after work.
I was hoping it was my head-cold that was playing havok with my tastebuds when I sampled it tonight but my neighbor confirmed my disappointment. The beer was a beautiful golden color, a bit hazy (not quite sure why, either yeast or perhaps starch haze), very good head retention. But the taste was rather yeasty, almost bready and was very dominate. Could taste some bitterness on the back end but couldn't identify is clearly. Decent mouthfeel. Definately a difference taste than what I has sampled at bottling. What I sampled at bottling time was light, very balance taste of the vienna malt and the cascade hops.

So my questions are, Does the Nottingham yeast have a strong taste presences for lighter beers when you use it? Am I getting this weird yeasty taste because the notty yeast pack I used was old or did I get an infection? (believe the expiration date on the notty pack was aug or sept 2010)
Is this batch worth saving and hoping it gets better with time?

Thanks for the help.
Redbeard5289

 

[jamesnsw]

Just drank the last bottle of this that I've been saving for over a year. Beautifully clear, best looking beer of my own I've ever poured. Should have taken a picture. It's aged well, but the hops have faded enough that I'm glad I have a new pale in the pipeline.

 

[Jughead]

Has anyone gotten a really strong yeasty taste from using nottingham yeast with this recipe?

The reason I asked is that I made this brew without any problems with a partial mash recipe, even hit my OG. Fermentation didn't get really active till about 48-60 hours after I pitched the Notty yeast. (I think my pack was getting old). Left the beer sit in the primary for 8 days then bottled it with about 5 oz corn sugar. Got about a 1/2 bottle to sample from what was left after bottling. The sample was really great considering it hadn't carbed up. Let the brew bottle condition for 2 weeks in the dark closet at 63-65ºF. I put a couple in the fridge this am and my neighbor and I sampled the finished product tonight after work.
I was hoping it was my head-cold that was playing havok with my tastebuds when I sampled it tonight but my neighbor confirmed my disappointment. The beer was a beautiful golden color, a bit hazy (not quite sure why, either yeast or perhaps starch haze), very good head retention. But the taste was rather yeasty, almost bready and was very dominate. Could taste some bitterness on the back end but couldn't identify is clearly. Decent mouthfeel. Definately a difference taste than what I has sampled at bottling. What I sampled at bottling time was light, very balance taste of the vienna malt and the cascade hops.

So my questions are, Does the Nottingham yeast have a strong taste presences for lighter beers when you use it? Am I getting this weird yeasty taste because the notty yeast pack I used was old or did I get an infection? (believe the expiration date on the notty pack was aug or sept 2010)
Is this batch worth saving and hoping it gets better with time?

Thanks for the help.
Redbeard5289

IMHO in only 8 days of fermentation you didn't get a lot of yeast settling out of this. Did you cold crash it before bottling? I think it's more the amount of yeast left in the beer, not the strain. I usually get a clean taste out of knotty. But could be wrong, next time if you only use a primary leave it closer to 14 days and cold crash it before bottling and I bet it will be a lot cleaner. ALWAYS SAVE THE BATCH! just let it sit and try not rouse the yeast before you pour it in a glass. Good luck!:rockin:

 

[goose1873]

90% of beers are going to taste like poo in 8 days. whats the hurry? I ferment everything 21+ days even if its done in a week...some lighter beers are ready in a couple weeks but 3 weeks is a good rule of thumb. patience my friend.... patience...

 

[businesstime]

Thanks for the beer! I was really surprised at the sweetness of this pale ale. It finished at right around 1.010, but it was not dry tasting at all. I even used it to experiment with apricot extract. Very yummy!

 

[KillerKellers]

Brewed this a couple times as a partial mash, and this was my first AG today. Did this as a 10gal batch (going for bust!). Had a few mistakes. When I did the vorlauf for the first runnings, I do not think I did it enough and ended up with some floaties. Hopefully not enough to be an issue.

Also ended up with a 14.7 brix (1.060 OG) which was higher then I anticipated, so I guess I just had better efficiency and a little higher final volume.

 

[JMass]

I can't believe I haven't seen this recipe. I'm usually looking for Cascade recipes to use up my home grown hops. I think we need a sticky with all of Edwort's recipes if there isn't one already. Well, I'm running out of kegs, but I'm sure one will come out of use eventually.

 

[seanybubbles]

I think we need a sticky with all of Edwort's recipes if there isn't one already.

Sounds good to me

 

[DZzero15]

Transferred this one over tonight. The sample was delicious... very much like the Texas Blondes I've had from both Real Ale and Southern Star. Now only if there were some Texas blondes around to drink it as well. Made mine with Hallertau which is giving me the a less hoppy beer as hoped for.

 

[deezy]

Brewed this up sunday for my first AG. Took this pic almost almost 24hrs later..mmmm.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kiapNYke2kJWIDz6YaFVyrUOWG7CyaMlAwU1zkaR8rQ

 

[fezzman]

I think I'll give this recipe a go this weekend. It will be my first AG without assistance. I only have a 5 gallon mash tun. Think that will be okay for this recipe? I'll surely build a bigger one shortly after.

I also have some EKG that are already opened. Think it'd come out okay if I substitute the Cascades for EKG?

I can't wait..............

 

[Sedge]

Using EKG over Cascades will certainly make a beer that will come out ok, and having similar alpha acids makes the amounts remain the same. However, don't expect it to taste anything like the original recipe (hop-wise). EKG will give you a real earthy flavor with a bit of a floral aroma. Nothing like the citrusy grapefruit aroma cascades typically impart.

 

[fezzman]

Using EKG over Cascades will certainly make a beer that will come out ok, and having similar alpha acids makes the amounts remain the same. However, don't expect it to taste anything like the original recipe (hop-wise). EKG will give you a real earthy flavor with a bit of a floral aroma. Nothing like the citrusy grapefruit aroma cascades typically impart.

I've been thinking...a very dangerous thing. I need to get some AG practice in, and I've got enough hops in the freezer for 3 batches (each with a different hop). This base recipe is perfect to warm up to AG with. I will crank them out, one per weekend if SWMBO will let me. I'll probably use WLP001 for all 3 because I've got a bit already washed and ready. Would that be okay or should I just grab some Notty?

1. First batch I will do the tried and true original recipe w/Cascades
2. Second will be the same grain bill but with EKG
3. Third I will substitute the Vienna for Munich (which I already have) and use Willamette.*
4. I'll finally brew the SNPA clone that i just got in the mail.

This way I'll be able to stock up on summer pool party brew and only need to buy 24lbs Pale, 4lbs Vienna, 1.5 lbs Crystal. I won the hops and Munich in a raffle.

See anything wrong with my plan of attack?

*Since I just killed the original recipe I may throw in .25lb Carafa III & .25 Victory...just because it's laying around

 

[dunnright00]

I think we need a sticky with all of Edwort's recipes if there isn't one already.

Or you could just go to the first post of this thread and click on Ed's recipe drop-down.