American Strong Ale Arrogant Bastard clone

[pm5k00]

i have used a recipe very similar to this and it came out great, however this is not an ipa, its og is too high, srm too high, and its too bitter. almost fits an Imperial except for the srm is still too high. very good beer though.

 

[ChillWill]

It's called arrogant bastard ale isn't it? I think its just habit to call it an ipa as its hoppy and bitter.

 

[DEWSBREW]

So I have not read through this whole thread, but I know a lot of people look for extract recipes of this beer. I have to be honest this is arguably the closest clone I have ever done, so I figured I would post it for someone if they want to use it. I did it side by side with the originally, walked out of the room had my wife mix up the glasses and I could not tell a difference at all. Here it is


Recipe: Arrogant Bastard Clone
Brewer: Tyson Beggs
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: Extract
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 3.33 gal
Estimated OG: 1.072 SG
Estimated Color: 20.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 65.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: - %
Boil Time: 75 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 lb Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 50.00 %
3.00 lb Amber Dry Extract (12.5 SRM) Dry Extract 30.00 %
0.50 lb Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 5.00 %
0.50 lb Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 5.00 %
0.50 lb Caramunich Malt (56.0 SRM) Grain 5.00 %
0.50 lb Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 5.00 %
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (75 min) Hops 27.8 IBU
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (45 min) Hops 24.4 IBU
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 13.2 IBU
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale

Thanks for the recipe, drinking it right now came out great!!! LBS ran out of chinook used 1oz columbus to dry hop in the keg and its a f' n good beer.....thanks again

 

[Larso]

So I have not read through this whole thread, but I know a lot of people look for extract recipes of this beer. I have to be honest this is arguably the closest clone I have ever done, so I figured I would post it for someone if they want to use it. I did it side by side with the originally, walked out of the room had my wife mix up the glasses and I could not tell a difference at all. Here it is


Recipe: Arrogant Bastard Clone
Brewer: Tyson Beggs
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: Extract
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 3.33 gal
Estimated OG: 1.072 SG
Estimated Color: 20.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 65.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: - %
Boil Time: 75 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 lb Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 50.00 %
3.00 lb Amber Dry Extract (12.5 SRM) Dry Extract 30.00 %
0.50 lb Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 5.00 %
0.50 lb Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 5.00 %
0.50 lb Caramunich Malt (56.0 SRM) Grain 5.00 %
0.50 lb Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 5.00 %
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (75 min) Hops 27.8 IBU
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (45 min) Hops 24.4 IBU
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 13.2 IBU
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale

Hi there Tyson, I'm a novice brewer(4 extract batches and 2 kits) and I'm considering this recipe. Its listed as an extract brew but dont some of those malts need to be mashed? I did one partial mash for my last brew but it turned out to be more of a 'steep' due to my poor temperature control. Can you give some info on how this should be steeped or mashed with temperature/time info please?

Thanks

L

 

[EvilTOJ]

It's not necessary to mash the Aromatic, Biscuit, Caramunich and Special B malts. They're for flavor and color but don't need any enzyme conversion.

 

[FEARDIZ]

anyone try the Austin clone?
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?products_id=1096

 

[EricCSU]

anyone try the Austin clone?
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?products_id=1096

Quite a few people have. Read through this thread as well as perform a search and you will find many discussions on the AHS recipe.

Eric

 

[FEARDIZ]

Quite a few people have. Read through this thread as well as perform a search and you will find many discussions on the AHS recipe.

Eric

I did read it and didn't see any, I just searched the thread also, no results

 

[EricCSU]

Can You Brew it Thread

AB thread

AB thread 2

 

[thrstyunderwater]

Does anyone have any advice on getting a second beer out of this recipe? I'm a poor graduate student and like to stretch my money as far as it can go.....

 

[Larso]

Does anyone have any advice on getting a second beer out of this recipe? I'm a poor graduate student and like to stretch my money as far as it can go.....

hi there. How about somethin like this http://community.beoir.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=469
I did this without the speciality grains. Just used crystal malt. You cud do somethin similar. Buy some Amarillo an use what you got.

good luck!

L

 

[tbeggs15]

Hi there Tyson, I'm a novice brewer(4 extract batches and 2 kits) and I'm considering this recipe. Its listed as an extract brew but dont some of those malts need to be mashed? I did one partial mash for my last brew but it turned out to be more of a 'steep' due to my poor temperature control. Can you give some info on how this should be steeped or mashed with temperature/time info please?

Thanks

L

I did a steep of the speciality grains, it turned out by far the closest clone I have ever done to a beer. 30 minutes at 170 is what I did.

 

[tbeggs15]

i have used a recipe very similar to this and it came out great, however this is not an ipa, its og is too high, srm too high, and its too bitter. almost fits an Imperial except for the srm is still too high. very good beer though.

It is not an IPA but in beer smith it was the closest i could come up with as a category.

 

[Conan]

Currently have the 3rd sparge sitting in the tun for this brew. Following the recipe, I have first runnings (3 gallons) SG of 1.092, second runnings (2.5 gallons) at 1.064. There goes the 'drain me now' timer! Kyle

 

[ChillWill]

Just done this for the 3rd time now (2nd time I used simcoe as well as chinook which was pretty good, although I'm not a massive simcoe fan so gone back to all chinook).

I do a 'toned down' version to get around 70IBU in a 6.2% beer. Also, I used S-04 for this time (Nottingham 2 previous times).

Will dry hop as usual, maybe oak. I find it's a great beer to oak half of, then you drink the fresher un-oaked first while the oaked half ages a little and mellows.

 

[Conan]

Kegged last nite after brewing on 11/5/2011. The FG was 1.022, spot on to BeerSmith's prediction. I took an SG but failed to record it. I think I was a little lower than the 1.088 prediction. Maybe 1.084? Anyway, the hydro was fantastic. It still needs to rest on it's laurels for a bit but man, this is tasty stuff. Well done recipe! Kyle

 

[price2bc]

I'm sorry if this is a very novice question but I have just recently started brewing and am attempting this recipe as my first ag. The original recipe posted has a 5.3g mash with two 3g sparges. My system can't handle this size. I have a 6 gallon fermentor. How do I go about sizing this down to my system? I see the HTML to import into beersmith but am novice to the program. Any help is appreciated. Thanks guys.

 

[mbtech]

You will lose some volume due to grain absorption from the mash. You will also boil off some during the 60 minute boil. How big is your boil kettle?

 

[price2bc]

I can get roughly 7 gallons in with 3-4 inches to spare (cutting it close with boil over risk). I see on beersmith the final batch size is 5.5 gallons which I could handle but my brew kettle is what is holding me back.

 

[mbtech]

Read reply #7, 8, and 9.

 

[EvilTOJ]

When I have more runoff than my boil kettle will handle, that's when the auxiliary stovetop boiler is called into play.

 

[Conan]

Update: Brewed on 11/5/2011 and it has been kegged for a little over a month. Fantastic beer, very well received. EvilTOJ- others have asked for the recipe, so I pointed them to this thread. Well done.
I can't comment on clone accuracy because I don't have any actual AB on hand. I'm not willing to buy some, either, because this is just too good. Kyle

 

[ChillWill]

My third batch was with s04... bad idea! Has made it fruity and killed the bitter kick other batches had.

Think I'll stick to a neutral yeast next time.

 

[whitehause]

Just got the grain bill for this today, and brewin it up tomorrow!!!! I saw that some used 2 packs of Notty. I only have 1 on hand. will this be ok, or should I get a little starter going just to bump it up a bit? I have some malta goya that I keep for emergencies like this. I also have some washed 2112, and german Kolsch 029, but I don't think those would be a good choice for this beer.
Any thoughts?

 

[Xcorpia]

Just got the grain bill for this today, and brewin it up tomorrow!!!! I saw that some used 2 packs of Notty. I only have 1 on hand. will this be ok, or should I get a little starter going just to bump it up a bit? I have some malta goya that I keep for emergencies like this. I also have some washed 2112, and german Kolsch 029, but I don't think those would be a good choice for this beer.
Any thoughts?

You use Malta goya for starters?

 

[whitehause]

Not unless I have to in a pinch. There have been a couple of times I "thought" I had some DME left only to find out I didn't. Malta goya is just non-fermented wort basically. It is hopped, but if you decant the liquid before pitching there won't be any flavor transfer, and it has the right type of sugars to get a good healthy starter going.

 

[Xcorpia]

Thanks for the info. I always have malta on hand (I'm Hispanic).

 

[whitehause]

If you search for "Malta goya"in the search engine, there is a lot of info on it. I found it when searching for how to make starters with no DME.

 

[Xcorpia]

I might try to ferment some malta to see what it tastes like just out of curiosity.

 

[whitehause]

I've heard a couple of people have done that, but I don't remember hearing the results....I might try it with some old washed yeast just to see if the yeast is still good.