Aroma hops in a hefeweizen?

[TripleC223]

Is drawing flavor/aroma from late-addition hops a no-no for a German hefeweizen?

I have some Huell Melon (6%) on hand and would like to take them for a spin in an extract hefe. This is a 3-gallon batch, and I would use 0.25 oz for 60-minute bittering additions and finish with 0.75 oz at flameout. That would put the IBUs at ~10.

Would they dominate the typical hefe banana/clove aromas, or do you think they would complement it? Does anyone have experience using Huell Melon in a German wheat beer?

This will be a sessionable hefe with a ~4.9 ABV, 4 pounds of wheat LME and WLP300. Again, 3-gallon batch.

Thank you, as always, for the help.

 

[kh54s10]

I guess it would not be to style...

Start a new trend... India Pale Hefe!!!

 

[mattdee1]

You never really know until you try it, but I think you'll probably find that the result is underwhelming.

I've sampled a few "hopfeweizen" beers and, well, let's just say there is a reason they're not all that common.

IMO, yeast-driven flavors kind of clash with hop-driven flavors so it's tough to get good harmony when both of those components are strong.

 

[dyqik]

I guess it would not be to style...

Start a new trend... India Pale Hefe!!!

And then make it cloudy for a NE IPH!

What? Oh yeah...

 

[mirthfuldragon]

I made a 54 IBU American pale wheat ale (45% 2 row, 45% wheat, 10% some other stuff), and fermented with Wyeast Weihenstephan 3068 (harvested from my hefe). Cascade for bittering, and amarillo and citra for flavor and aroma.

The hops blow the banana and clove away almost to the point of non-existence. The same yeast in a 15 IBU hefe is all banana at the same fermentation temperature (68-70 degrees).

The banana esters are too delicate in my experience. Citra and Amarillo are relatively strong hops, so something more mild might work, but I doubt it. The hefe came out pretty heavily banana almost to the point of undrinkability (I drain-poured the first bottle, but it is getting better as it ages), and the APWA with the same yeast and same temperature has zero banana.

YMMV.

 

[dyqik]

I bittered my currently fermenting one with 0.75 oz of Hallertau, so I threw in the rest of the 1oz packet at flame out, rather than having it clutter up the freezer.

 

[BBQB]

I added 2oz at flameout but the flavor never came through

 

[dmtaylor]

Not to style, but it's your beer. Brew the beer YOU want to drink. Cheers.

 

[Horseflesh]

I have used Huell hops in a hefeweizen, and it did deliver the melon aroma I wanted. It's not a legit style but I liked it.

 

[BeerAddikt]

I use Huell Melon in my American Wheat recipe and the results are fantastic (I whirlpool at flameout and ferment with a Kolsch yeast) but if your shooting for a Hef I'm not sure how that will turn out. Give it a go and let us know the results. Banana/Clove/Melon may be delicious...who knows.

 

[TripleC223]

I use Huell Melon in my American Wheat recipe and the results are fantastic (I whirlpool at flameout and ferment with a Kolsch yeast) but if your shooting for a Hef I'm not sure how that will turn out. Give it a go and let us know the results. Banana/Clove/Melon may be delicious...who knows.

What was your IBU for the AW, and what was the hop schedule? I will probably just go with an American Wheat to better use these hops.

 

[BeerAddikt]

What was your IBU for the AW, and what was the hop schedule? I will probably just go with an American Wheat to better use these hops.

Approximately 19 IBUs. 0.5 oz Centennial at 40 min and as mentioned I whirlpool 0.5 oz Huell Melon at flameout. Start chilling immediately during whirlpool.

I've edited this post like 3 times...I can't even read my own recipes.

And I should add, this is for a 5.5 gallon batch and my OG is 1.055. On my next batch I'm probably going to step it up to 1 oz Huell Melon at flameout because it worked so well.

 

[violinguy]

Right now I'm drinking my honey wheat that I bittered with Saaz and finished with Citra. I love it, but I caught a little flak on the BF boards for using a citrus flavored hop with a honey wheat beer. For me, it's my second favorite beer that I've brewed. Coincidentally, the favorite of the beers I've brewed was NB's Zombie clone - also using Citra. Hmmm