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Are you a Hop Head?

  • Oh yes! Bringem on! 100 IBUs!

  • I like hops but I think some beers are getting carried away.

  • I can enjoy a beer with some hop character but not much.

  • Show me the malt! The hops have to be there to balance the beer but let’s keep them to a minimum.


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RichBrewer

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After my experiences at the HBC and tours of some breweries over the past 3 days, I've discovered that craft brewing has cranked up the IBUs to new levels. It seems like every brewery now makes a double IPA.
What I would like to know is, how many of us here are hop heads?

I've got to say that I am not a hop head. I don't mind a moderately hopped beer but when the aroma, flavor, and bitterness, reach out of the glass and smack me I just can't enjoy the beer.
I'm not saying bitter beers are bad. I just think they are not meant for me.

Opinions? Do you like or dislike where the hoppiness levels are going in craft/ home brews?
 
I have to say I am not. Every now and then, for a change I like to get a nice hoppy beer usually with a meal. I am actualy on the other side of the spectrum when it comes to the balance of a beer. I like really malty almost sweet beers like Spaten Optimator. ummmm Optimator :)
 
I love a really, really, hoppy beer (that bottle of Pliny in Dude's room was making me drool), but I can also really appreciate (and have been craving) a lot more malt-focused beers. I'd call myself more of a hophead than not, but it's not like I'm EXCLUSIVELY a hophead.
 
the_bird said:
I love a really, really, hoppy beer (that bottle of Pliny in Dude's room was making me drool), but I can also really appreciate (and have been craving) a lot more malt-focused beers. I'd call myself more of a hophead than not, but it's not like I'm EXCLUSIVELY a hophead.

It still smells like hops after we rinsed it out.
 
RichBrewer said:
After my experiences at the HBC and tours of some breweries over the past 3 days, I've discovered that craft brewing has cranked up the IBUs to new levels. It seems like every brewery now makes a double IPA.
What I would like to know is, how many of us here are hop heads?

It seems to me that a lot of people, majority BMC drinkers, think that hoppy beer=better beer. The local micro around here sells an Extra Pale Ale that, IMO, is supposed to look and taste as much like BMC but with a ton of hops added in.

I like certain beers with a lot of hops but I don't like certain beers just because they have a lot of hops.
 
Hops have grown on me recently, perhaps it is just the search for something new...that being said though, some are too bitter for my tastes. However, I have found that creating beers with good hop flavor and tremendous hop aroma can be fun, sidestepping the heavy bittering addition.
 
I have found that im very picky about hoppy beers, some I love others that get good reviews I don't like at all. Im sure it has something about the hop combination.
 
As far as I am concerned the only reason hops are used in brewing is to balance the sweetness of the malt and make the brew more enjoyable to drink. ;) :mug:

Using too many hops? You may as well just graze in the meadow...moo...moo. :D
 
I'm an unabashed hophead. I can appreciate malty beers (stouts are my second faves after IPAs) but I loves me a good beer with bold hop bitterness, flavor, and aroma.

The thing I absolutely love about what I'm hearing from you guys, is that craft brewers are actually LISTENING to beer drinkers and experimenting and giving the beer drinkers flavors for which they are asking.:mug:
 
I enjoy them to a point. I'm mainly a Malt Fan Man, but I do like some Hop Character. For the most part tho, IMHO, a lot of the smaller breweries have gotten carried away with hop usage.

The nice thing tho is, making it yourself, and finding the Hop Character that you prefer. Not predetermined by someone else. :rockin:

Ize
 
This is where I like my brews:
SNPA_Clone_HopsRatio.jpg
 
I like IPA when it is true to style, I'm not a big fan of huge bitterness. I prefer the english style with a nice biscuity flavour but I also like the american style with lots of citrus flavour.

That said I'm definitely more interested in a balanced beer and failing that, more malty than hoppy. I always have IPA in bottles though, no way I could do without some nice bitterness.
 
My current favorite commercial brew is Goose Island IPA.

I have no idea what it tastes like (the malt in the beer, I mean). When you drink it your're just hit with a very fresh, citrusy, maybe even minty hops flavor that's not too bitter. Doesn't hurt either that the alcohol content seems to be pretty healthy, too.
 
One tap on my kegerator is dedicated to 100+IBUs I am a full blown hophead
 
Hophead all the way....:rockin:

I really like a good hoppy brew that has a big malt backbone.
Huge bitterness with underlying maltiness, there's nothing better!
 
Let the hopheads have their IIIIIIIIPAs. Too many brewers are over-hopping styles that do not call for high hopping. Why bother? Last bar I went to had ONE non-IPA and that was so heavily hopped, you would never have know it was meant to be a Red. One more brewery crossed off my list.

Eventually, this trend should reverse, but it might kill craft brewing first by driving out variety.
 
RichBrewer said:
That chart is great! I've saved it and I'll be using when I formulate beers. :mug:
Here's one without the bullet.

I always refer back to this when formulating a recipe. Especially if I'm tweaking a clone. It helps me maintain the malt-hops profile if I want to lower the ABV a bit.

Gravity_Hops_Ratio.jpg
 
BierMuncher said:
This is where I like my brews:
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I 2nd Rich's opinion on the chart. I like both malty & hoppy but gravitate to the balanced area. Awhile back I have made a few good beers that were malty and hopped well and would have said I prefer malty. (Used pre-hopped extracts)

Earlier this year I made a few beers on the malty side w/o much steeping grains to add flavor complexity (a mistake) and found them to be under-hopped or two sweet. They are drinkable but just a little too sweet for me. I also made another beer that still under hopped but the saving grace is the late hop additions for smell and flavor.

My problem was that wasn't making adjustments for LME and DME substitutions. Opting for the DME over LME, hence too sweet. So now I'm making sure to calc the IBU's first. ( Toss in the fact that pre-hopped LME & unhopped DME) Opps!!

I also noticed that I like the head formation on lighter beers with higher hop rates. With higher hop rates the head retention is better since the maltiness isn't there. Since I've been growning hops I've started adding more flavor and aroma hops. I'll be making more balanced beers with higher hop flavor & aroma.

So I'm kind of a hophead, I like hoppy beers and malty one too. Depends on my mood.

:mug:
 
Unabashed and total HOPHEAD here. I love hoppy beers, but really appreciate and love a fine malty brew too.l

You can't make a beer too hoppy for me, but it does need to be balanced by enough malt backbone and alcohol to make it a good brew. I currently have an over the top Imperial IPA on tap - Knock 'Yer Hops Off - with over 300 IBU and 9% a/v. Its on the darker side of IPA with a lot of specialty malts (SRM~15+) giving it a huge complexity and mouthfeel. not overly astringent.

Funny how we all see the beer world through our individual preferences....lots of malt lovers think the craft/micro trend towards higher IBUs is not good - that too many beers are too hoppy.....NOT ME....I think, in spite of the hop revolution, that many beers out there are too sweet and syrupy in the finish, not dry enough, bitter enough, or hoppy/floral/citrusy, enough for my bias.

CHEERS!

On tap:
Knock Yer Hops Off Imperial IPA
Clubhouse Pale Ale
Lawson's Light Lager (American lite)
Homer's Hefeweizen (Bavarian)

In Primary:
Thunderbrew Pale Ale
Homer's Hefe II

In Secondary:
Knock Yer Hops Off Imperial IPA (Dry-hopping/for bottling)
Stony Hill Pilsner (German)

Cold Lagering in Kegs:
Lincoln Woods Lager (Marzen style)

In Bottles:
Too many to list! This years maple and sap brew crop (6 varieties), Maple Imperial Stout, Belgian Dubble, Fistful-o-Hop IPA......and on and on!
 
I think that chart is way off. DFH's 60 Minute IPA is 1.060 OG, with 60IBUs. That puts it off the chart as far as hoppiness goes, but that beer is probably one of the most balanced IPAs that I've had, almost bordering on too sweet/malty for me.

Am I reading it wrong?

I'm currently conditioning what amounts to be an IIRA, and am a huge fan of high hop beers. I disagree that high hop levels are going to ruin the craft beer industry. Infact I was over in NY and it was DIFFICULT finding a good high-hop beer over there. The Brooklyn IPA was.. meh. The only good IPA I found was the Lagunitas Maximus IIPA, but that was from california. You may be seeing lots of high hop beers over on the west coast, but I didn't find many in NY, and I found none in montreal.
 
My favorite styles, porter and hefeweizen, are low in bitterness with practically no hop flavor. Even English bitters aren't that heavy on the hops although there is a bit of hop flavor. It's a rare IPA that I can drink and actually enjoy. If I wanted grapefruit I'd drink grapefruit juice! :cross:
 
Here's my issue: whenever I stay in the middle of the IBU range for a particular style in ProMash, the end product ends up way underhopped. I don't know if it's just homebrewing and the procedures, or my palate, or what, but I've found that my beers end up much, much better when I tend towards (or past) the upper IBU limit for a style. I like hoppy beers, but am by no means solely a hop-head. I can drink a Ruination once in awhile, but it's almost like I'm doing it to prove my manhood or something. But I find that commercial brews that have the same IBU's as my beers tend to be much more bitter than mine. I brewed my first IPA awhile back, and the reaction I got from my beer-drinking & -brewing friend was that it tasted like a pale ale, not an IPA. It had 63 IBU vs. 1.071 OG according to ProMash, which is off the chart according the table above. So, maybe it's not my palate? My first thought is how the hops are stored, but mine are about as anal as it gets: vacuum-sealed and freezer-stored. SO I dunno...all I can say is, I tend towards the upper end of style guidelines. My DIPA that I brewed last night...uh...supposedly it'll have 110 IBU's. Mwah ha ha.
 
Buford said:
If I wanted grapefruit I'd drink grapefruit juice! :cross:


That's my biggest complaint with american IPA's. Way to damn much citrus flavor.

I like bitter beers, but ones balanced with a malt/hop flavor not just a ton of cascade (or other citrusy hop).
 
I love IPA's and barleywines, but I actually could not drink a DFH 120 and had to pour the $9 bottle down the drain (Sorry guys). I had met my tolerance for hops in that beer.
 

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