apfel wine and wild grapes?

[thedude4]

I'm going to start another batch of apfel and i got a grocery bag full of grapes from my buddy's back yard. not sure what kind they are but they're tasty little buggers. not sure how much to put in a gallon jar with the cider? 1#? 2#? does anyone have a good starting point? they're frozen now so i still need to d-stem and smash. not looking for a ton of grape flavor but a noticable taste is kinda the direction i'm looking for. thanks in advance

 

[gratus fermentatio]

What color are these mystery grapes?

 

[jddhammer]

I'd go with a couple pounds or a couple of inches of mash in the jug. If they're not wine grapes, they may have much less wine character than you might expect, so I wouldn't be too conservative with the amount.

Wild (or untreated) grapes get some pretty funky things growing in and on them, I'd dose it with campden.

I'm going to make a small batch with some leftover muscat concentrate.

 

[thedude4]

they're grape color redish i guess. so i smash a couple pounds then pour the juice mixed with a tab and wait a day or 2 then pitch my yeast? or is there another way? i'm making 5 gal batches and separating 1 gallon off that to put on the grapes.