Anybody Tried Fawcett Oat Malt?

[Schlenkerla]

I was looking through NB's base malts and found this. Fawcett Oat Malt - Base Malts - Grain Malts - Ingredients

I was thinking of making Dudes pub ale again, however once I saw this it had me thinking of using this as a big chunk of the base malt.

Has anybody tried this malt yet? - Thanks!!

Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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46.2 4.50 lbs. English Pale 2-row Malt 1.038
15.4 1.00 lbs. Toasted Malt(2-row) America 1.033
7.7 0.50 lbs. Brown Sugar Generic 1.046
7.7 0.50 lbs. Cara-Pils Dextrine Malt 1.033
7.7 0.50 lbs. Crystal 60L America 1.034
7.7 0.50 lbs. Flaked Oats America 1.033
7.7 0.50 lbs. Flaked Soft White Wheat America 1.034

 

[pjj2ba]

I've used it in stouts and porters. ~ 1lb per 5 gal. I think the flavor is a little more mild than if using flaked oats. I even once used it in a lager, but I didn't think it added much charecter.

 

[flyangler18]

Yes - I've used it as well and substitute 1:1 for flaked oats.

A delightful malt!

 

[Schlenkerla]

You guys don't recommend this as 2-row or pale malt substitute?

Edit: OK went to the website 10% is the recommend maximum. I found on the brewing network you can go up to 15% if you add darker malts but too much of this will ruin a beer.

 

[Bob]

Error. On the contrary, it's not 'ruin', it's just something to which we're not used.

Up until the 1950s there were several Norfolk breweries brewing all-oat-malt ales. I've brewed historical recipes using upwards of 80% oat malt. They turned out quite well, if I may say so. Were they exactly like modern beers? Nope. But using a proportion higher than 15% won't 'ruin' anything.

Simply, I wouldn't necessarily recommend oat malt as a pale-malt substitute. It depends on what you're trying to do.

Bob

 

[Schlenkerla]

Good points! I'm thinking of making something silky smooth. Dudes Pub Ale is kind of that way, but I'm just thinking about making it more creamy like an oatmeal stout without the dark roasty flavor.

 

[Schlenkerla]

Is there a commercial all oat malt beer on the market that's worth trying?

 

[Tonedef131]

Three Floyds and Mikkeller did an Oat Wine they called Oatgoop last year. I haven't seen it on shelves lately and never bothered to try it since it was like $16/bottle. I also doubt it was 100% oat malt but it was without a doubt a higher oat percentage than your average beer containing oats.

 

[santosvega]

Been planning this for a while now, and later today I'm gonna brew it; a 100% oat malt ale, lightly hopped with EKG, OG 1.100. It's an approximation of the old Edinburgh Oat Ale found in a few 19th century brewing manuals. I'll update with notes if people are interested.

 

[Tonedef131]

Been planning this for a while now, and later today I'm gonna brew it; a 100% oat malt ale, lightly hopped with EKG, OG 1.100. It's an approximation of the old Edinburgh Oat Ale found in a few 19th century brewing manuals. I'll update with notes if people are interested.

Buy stock in rice hulls.

 

[flyangler18]

Buy stock in rice hulls.

Oat malt has a husk.

 

[Tonedef131]

Oat malt has a husk.

I highly doubt a bit of oat bran (or are you saying they actually leave the hull on?) is going to be enough to break through the dense bed of gel the oils and proteins create. I could be wrong and would love to hear a trip report from this 100% oat beer brew day. If it were me I would be sure to have a bag of lautering aid around and I would still do a step mash.

 

[Schlenkerla]

Been planning this for a while now, and later today I'm gonna brew it; a 100% oat malt ale, lightly hopped with EKG, OG 1.100. It's an approximation of the old Edinburgh Oat Ale found in a few 19th century brewing manuals. I'll update with notes if people are interested.

Yeah. Let hear how that goes, brew day & drinking!

 

[flyangler18]

I highly doubt a bit of oat bran (or are you saying they actually leave the hull on?) is going to be enough to break through the dense bed of gel the oils and proteins create. I could be wrong and would love to hear a trip report from this 100% oat beer brew day. If it were me I would be sure to have a bag of lautering aid around and I would still do a step mash.

The Medieval Ale that I've referenced in the past is 70% oat malt, 15% barley malt and 15% wheat malt. Single infusion mash @ 150° at my normal 80% efficiency. Oat malt has more husk material than barley. A step mash isn't a bad idea though.

 

[Schlenkerla]

The Medieval Ale that I've referenced in the past is 70% oat malt, 15% barley malt and 15% wheat malt. Single infusion mash @ 150° at my normal 80% efficiency. Oat malt has more husk material than barley. A step mash isn't a bad idea though.

Would this grain bill make for a good cask-style ale, served low carbed and on an engine??

 

[Schlenkerla]

Bumpity-Bump.... humpty-dumpty fell off the wall because he was frickin' drunk.

 

[Tonedef131]

I wonder if santosvega is still trying to collect his runnings from that 100% oat mash.

 

[flyangler18]

Would this grain bill make for a good cask-style ale, served low carbed and on an engine??

Sure, provided you hop it.

Ale, in this sense of the word, was completely unhopped and thus had a very short lifespan.

 

[Schlenkerla]

Sure, provided you hop it.

Ale, in this sense of the word, was completely unhopped and thus had a very short lifespan.

What would you use? UK Golding, fuggles. I may not matter since I guess it doesn't fall into a style category, or does it??

 

[flyangler18]

What would you use? UK Golding, fuggles. I may not matter since I guess it doesn't fall into a style category, or does it??

If it were me, I'd use Fuggles.

Try the Medieval unhopped ale - it's quite nice.

 

[Schlenkerla]

Would you post it with all the details and tasting notes? Either here or in the recipe database section.

 

[flyangler18]

So noted.

 

[Schlenkerla]

Thanks!!!

 

[santosvega]

I wonder if santosvega is still trying to collect his runnings from that 100% oat mash.

No need for such snark. We're talking about oat malt, not flaked oats for God's sake. Brew day went fine, and there were no difficulties with the mash or sparge. People were brewing beer from malted oats for centuries.

It did smell strange however. Smelled intensely like creamed corn for the entirety of the boil. I'll post tasting notes when the time comes.

 

[Schlenkerla]

santosvega - Mind putting the recipe here???

Let me know how it goes taste-wise!

 

[Tonedef131]

No need for such snark. We're talking about oat malt, not flaked oats for God's sake. Brew day went fine, and there were no difficulties with the mash or sparge. People were brewing beer from malted oats for centuries.

It's called a joke, we tell those from time to time around here. If I had to guess by your attitude I would say the brew day went horribly...but I am glad to hear otherwise.

 

[Schlenkerla]

It's called a joke, we tell those from time to time around here. If I had to guess by your attitude I would say the brew day went horribly...but I am glad to hear otherwise.

Now, now , be nice Tonedef131.

santosvega - We want to hear tasting notes. Anything you can share about fermentation. Also what yeast you used. So your mash went flawless, no rice hulls used either I assume!

 

[JoeBob]

Perfect thread, I have a 55lb sack of Thomas Fawcett Oat Malt and must do something with it. I have made an Oatmeal Stout which only used a pound of it with a pound of flaked as well. I was looking to see if anyone has made an oat whiskey mash, seems plausible. I am interested in the ale recipe, I have pounds of First Gold hops I can sacrifice with the oats.

PS, if anyone wants some oat malt and can't get it locally, I will gladly part with it in trade or for next to nothing. Just want it used.

 

[StAnthonyB]

Perfect thread, I have a 55lb sack of Thomas Fawcett Oat Malt and must do something with it. I have made an Oatmeal Stout which only used a pound of it with a pound of flaked as well. I was looking to see if anyone has made an oat whiskey mash, seems plausible. I am interested in the ale recipe, I have pounds of First Gold hops I can sacrifice with the oats.

PS, if anyone wants some oat malt and can't get it locally, I will gladly part with it in trade or for next to nothing. Just want it used.

Whatever happened to all that Oat Malt you had on hand?

 

[JoeBob]

I still have a ~40lbs of it, you need some? I have been thinking of an all Oat Mash for Alcohol Fuel production, just to see what happens. Other than that I have just been using it in place of Flaked oats.