American Pale Wheat Ale

[CrestwoodBrewing]

Want to create a hybrid of Bell's Oberon and Lagunitas Little Sumpin Ale. Both categorized as American Pale Wheat Ales, I wanted to capture the wheat profile of the Bell's while also giving it a hoppy kick found in the Lagunitas. Aiming for a summer type beer.

Sparge Temp 168
Mash in 152 for 60 mins

Fermentables
6 lbs - US 2 Row
4 lbs - White Wheat Malt
0.75 lbs - Crystal 20

Hops
1 oz - Amarillo - 60 mins
1 oz - Willamette - 20 mins
1 oz - Cascade - 5 mins
1 oz - Saaz - 5 mins
1 oz - Amarillo - Dry Hop 5 days
1 oz - Saaz - Dry Hop 5 days
1 oz - Chinook - Dry Hop 5 days

Yeast
WLP007 - Dry English Ale

 

[Weezy]

Here's some personal opinion feedback:
40% wheat seems like more than I'd guess are in these beers, but I could be wrong. I'd go 20-25% personally.

The hops seem mottled with many different flavor profiles. Chinook and cascade are piney, spicey, resiny, grapefruit. Willamette and saaz are floral, herbal, touch noble. Amarillo is somewhere between those with grapefruit and herbal/floral notes. There's a 100 eays to skin a cat. I just wanted to point out that you should try to mentally picture what this is going to taste like and be sure that's what you want.

007 sounds good.

 

[CrestwoodBrewing]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm still trying to get hop profiles down, I will look into those. And I was actually thinking similar about the wheat %. Thanks again

 

[Psylocide]

This looks almost identical to my Wheat Pale grain bill... it produces good beer, no worries on that.

I agree with the hops though. If you want to hit those flavors of Lil Sumpin or Oberon, use more American hops later.

I have done it with Mosaic and Citra, and you get a tropical fruit bomb.

I've done it with Centennial, Columbus and Cascade and you get a more citrus-y/resinous beer.

Have fun experimenting, I would just work on the hop schedule.

 

[CrestwoodBrewing]

Thanks for the reply. Especially the hop breakdown

 

[Weezy]

I don't use more than 3 hops anymore. Usually one or two. Your taste buds have something they can focus on and appreciate. My favorite beers from local brew pubs typically end up being one or two hop beers. Hopfarm had a session ale with just El Dorado...it was a beauty.

 

[CrestwoodBrewing]

KISS method never fails

 

[Psylocide]

Here's my MO/Citra/Columbus dry hopped recipe for reference.

6 lb White Wheat
5 lb 2-row
1 lb Caramel/crystal 40L


OG = 1.061
FG = 1.009
ABV = ~6.7%
Est IBU = 50ish


.5 oz Columbus @ 60 mins - 15% AA = 26 ibu
1 oz Centennial @ 30 mins - 9% AA = 24 ibu
.5 oz Columbus flame-out addition
.5 oz Centennial flame-out addition
.5 oz Cascade flame-out addition
1 packet rehydrated Nottingham pitch @ 62°
1 oz Citra dry hop - 5 days
1 oz Mosaic dry hop - 5 days
1 oz Columbus dry hop - 5 days

 

[CrestwoodBrewing]

You weren't kidding your grain bill is close to mine. Thanks again for the hop breakdown

 

[bacgabe]

Pretty sure they did little sumpin sumpin on Can You Brew It and the Lagunitas rep verified somewhere around 50% wheat in grist, perhaps even slightly over. If you pull it up you should also get at least hop varieties, if not amounts.

 

[bacgabe]

Here you go: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?p=2557323

 

[CrestwoodBrewing]

Thanks!

 

[bacgabe]

And even though you didn't ask, here is is some good looking info about oberon...https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?p=2635296