Alternative idea for mailing beer, traveling, etc...

[triethylborane]

Why don't you test this? Purge a bag with co2, fill it, purge it again, seal it, the try it in 2 weeks and see how it taste

Too easy, not alternative enough.

 

[jodell]

Too easy, not alternative enough.

Exactly

 

[Weezy]

I've been wanting to try a screw top monster energy drink can. See if it will seal well enough to hold carbonation.

Although people might wonder why you're getting tired after having drank 6.

 

[applescrap]

Why don't you test this? Purge a bag with co2, fill it, purge it again, seal it, the try it in 2 weeks and see how it taste

Good idea, i have purged plastic bottles and had success.

 

[applescrap]

Plastic bottles would be easy enough if you are worried about breakage and you are doing the bottling. If you are talking about shipping already bottled beer I don't see why you are trying to reinvent bubble wrap.

Yep, that was my first idea, havent sent any yet, but I have only used pet from day one, just made sense to me. But I am often out of them and they cost 1 dollar each at least. I need to buy a case of 16oz seltzer water. Flavored soda leaves some scent.

 

[November]

bro, pour some beer into a thermos and drink in public like the rest of us.

Out in my neck of the desert everyone carries around hyrdroflasks or similar containers with water. This has been just great for me and my alcoholism. My wife just has to remind the kids not to drink from Daddy's 'water' bottle.

 

[doug293cz]

This idea remains interesting, viable, and worthy of further consideration. Think about it this bag is almost 3 beers. Two or three beers could be sent with such ease. In a cheap padded envelope. I packed this from my buddy today I shot CO2 in after I should have done it before. If it was shot with CO2 and then sealed I think it would hold for a couple weeks

If you have any significant amount of headspace potential* in the bag (even if it is collapsed after filling), CO2 will escape into the head space, and the beer will go flat. This will occur in hours or days, depending on beer temp. After two weeks, flat for sure. If you remove all potential headspace before sealing (and I don't know how you could do that with a FoodSaver type sealer) then the pressure inside the bag will rise to somewhere around 30 psi, if the beer warms to room temp. Not sure those bags/seals can take that kind of internal pressure.

* By headspace potential I mean the internal gas volume you would have if you blew air/CO2/whatever into the sealed bag.

Brew on

 

[jodell]

If you have any significant amount of headspace potential* in the bag (even if it is collapsed after filling), CO2 will escape into the head space, and the beer will go flat. This will occur in hours or days, depending on beer temp. After two weeks, flat for sure. If you remove all potential headspace before sealing (and I don't know how you could do that with a FoodSaver type sealer) then the pressure inside the bag will rise to somewhere around 30 psi, if the beer warms to room temp. Not sure those bags/seals can take that kind of internal pressure.

* By headspace potential I mean the internal gas volume you would have if you blew air/CO2/whatever into the sealed bag.

Brew on

Some people just have to do it themselves to learn

 

[applescrap]

If you have any significant amount of headspace potential* in the bag (even if it is collapsed after filling), CO2 will escape into the head space, and the beer will go flat. This will occur in hours or days, depending on beer temp. After two weeks, flat for sure. If you remove all potential headspace before sealing (and I don't know how you could do that with a FoodSaver type sealer) then the pressure inside the bag will rise to somewhere around 30 psi, if the beer warms to room temp. Not sure those bags/seals can take that kind of internal pressure.

* By headspace potential I mean the internal gas volume you would have if you blew air/CO2/whatever into the sealed bag.

Brew on

Can you help me understand better what you mean? I am not sure I understand headspace potential and why it would go to 30 psi. I have purged pet bottles and filled them half full and they maintained co2 for 2 weeks. After reading this I went to check my buddies bag in the car and it had not expanded or was on verge of exploding. The vacu seal machine has a pump that could remove all head space if it would be better that way. I do it with soups for example when freezing.

 

[thunderwagn]

Why don't you test this? Purge a bag with co2, fill it, purge it again, seal it, the try it in 2 weeks and see how it taste

I'd also leave it in a vehicle for several days, and maybe kick it across the lawn a time or two for proper testing.

 

[jddevinn]

Can you help me understand better what you mean? I am not sure I understand headspace potential and why it would go to 30 psi. I have purged pet bottles and filled them half full and they maintained co2 for 2 weeks. After reading this I went to check my buddies bag in the car and it had not expanded or was on verge of exploding. The vacu seal machine has a pump that could remove all head space if it would be better that way. I do it with soups for example when freezing.

Carbonation level is a function of temperature and pressure. When packaged into a rigid container such as a bottle, growler or keg the head space is limited; when packaged into a vacuum sealed bag the head space is pliable. with no positive pressure on the beer the CO2 will be in a non balanced state and will move from the beer to the "empty" space in the bag, swelling the bag and flattening the beer.

Take this table (http://www.kegerators.com/carbonation-table.php) by vacuum sealing the bag you are changing the pressure to 0psig.

 

[applescrap]

Man, this myth might be busted. Oh well still good way to bring beer to the golf course

 

[BlkWater_brewer]

Just use a U-Haul wine shipping kit and be done with it. About $7 for a bottle box and foam, or $11 for 12 bottle kit. By the time you find a suitable box and enough bubble wrap or peanuts how much are you really saving.