Alabama vote.

[aubiecat]

Have you all heard about the homebrew store that was raided in Birmingham by the ABC?

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2012/09/abc_board_attorney_brewing_equ.html

Meanwhile, other stores operate without a problem. Did the owners just neglect to pay the bribes to the right people or should we all be concerned about seizure of our own equipment?

Their mistake was applying for a liquor license.

 

[Accidic]

That apparently wasn't a problem for wal-mart...

 

[thargrav]

Or the other retail stores who sell Mr. Beer kits during the Christmas holidays.

 

[gcdowd]

"It shall be unlawful for any person, firm or corporation in this state to manufacture, sell, give away or have in possession any still, apparatus, appliance or any device or substitute therefore to be used for the purpose of manufacturing any prohibited liquors or beverages."

Better start raiding people's houses to confiscate their thermometers.

 

[BrewKnurd]

"It shall be unlawful for any person, firm or corporation in this state to manufacture, sell, give away or have in possession any still, apparatus, appliance or any device or substitute therefore to be used for the purpose of manufacturing any prohibited liquors or beverages."

Better start raiding people's houses to confiscate their thermometers.

Not necessarily. It doesn't say any device that can be used for the purpose of manufacturing alcohol, it says any device that is "to be used" which is a statement of intent rather than capability. Now, you certainly get into the issue of how one proves intent, yadda, yadda, yadda, but as i read it, there's nothing in the law that says that anything that CAN be used to make alcohol is illegal.

 

[gcdowd]

Yeah I was just being facetious.

 

[Huff360]

Word is there are 2 other stores in the state that have a liquor license and sell homebrew supplies. Not sure how they get by with it if that is the problem.

I suspect that this is like so many things in the media - We are hearing something that is based on actual events, but none of the details are right.

 

[thargrav]

The difference is the other two stores already existed and this is a new establishment. If they had opened as a homebrew shop then applied for a liqour license a couple of years later the state would not have noticed.

 

[FTG-05]

And in other news: Deep South Home Brew closed yesterday, supposedly for personal reasons, not due to the recent HC raid. Supposedly.

 

[Huff360]

I hear rumors that there is big news about to break.

 

[IffyG]

I hear rumors that there is big news about to break.

Hmm... vague. Is this supposed to be good news or bad news?

 

[aubiecat]

I hear rumors that there is big news about to break.

What?

 

[dford]

I've heard nothing new on the homebrewing front in Alabama. Rumour is probably all it is. I'm sure things will crank up after the first of the year.

 

[Huff360]

It will be good news.

If you aren't signed up for the e-mail list at http://www.alahomebrewing.org/ get on there. Official announcements go out there first.

 

[dford]

It will be good news.

If you aren't signed up for the e-mail list at http://www.alahomebrewing.org/ get on there. Official announcements go out there first.

What's the big secret? Go ahead and spit it out.

 

[landshark]

Smoke n mirrors

 

[wailingguitar]

It will be good news.

If you aren't signed up for the e-mail list at http://www.alahomebrewing.org/ get on there. Official announcements go out there first.

Ok.. seriously, spill... I have been checking there since you sent this up and they have not updated.

 

[aubiecat]

Alabamahomebrew.org, where secrets go to die.

 

[thargrav]

Alabamahomebrew.org, where secrets go to die.

Problem is - there is nothing to report until the bill is up for a vote. There are no secerets "to die".

 

[Huff360]

Ok.. seriously, spill... I have been checking there since you sent this up and they have not updated.

I just said sign up for the e-mail list. No need to check the site daily till it's updated. When the official word gets put out, it'll show up right in your inbox.

Alabamahomebrew.org, where secrets go to die.

Hmmm - yeah, don't know anything about that site.... but I think you mean - Alabama State House: Where things move slower than molasses.

Problem is - there is nothing to report until the bill is up for a vote. There are no secerets "to die".

I'd say that's complete BS. Apparently you think that the bill magically writes itself, finds its own sponsors, does it's own promoting, writes its own calls to action, and calls all the legislators on it's own.

The only way that you can hold the opinion that there is "Nothing to Report" outside the vote is if you are one of the ones in the state who does absolutely nothing to support the legalization effort except post on forums about why the bill that is up for a vote is unacceptable. There have been meetings with legislators, commitments from legislators, plans for bill promotion, PR plans, several news articles supporting homebrewing legalization, and countless other things that have happened since the end of the last session.

 

[IffyG]

I just said sign up for the e-mail list. No need to check the site daily till it's updated. When the official word gets put out, it'll show up right in your inbox.

Really, your previous post in this thread indicated something was going down.

I hear rumors that there is big news about to break.

So truth is, nothing is happening and you just wanted to bump the thread?

 

[jbsg02]

sweet home(brew) alabama, where all i want is to brew

 

[FTG-05]

Really, your previous post in this thread indicated something was going down.

So truth is, nothing is happening and you just wanted to bump the thread?

Something is, but I think he's holding it close to the vest to let the principles announce it. If true, and I believe it is, it's good news.

 

[KBentley57]

Sigh, where to look for the news? Haven't found anything anywhere...

 

[Huff360]

Why are you guys 'looking' for it?

There's no need to hunt. Get on the e-mail list or follow the group on Twitter. You'll have it delivered right to you as soon as it's official.

When will that be? Hell if we know. Refer to the comment on Molasses earlier...

 

[VegasJ]

it's illegal to home brew in Alabama? eff that! I'd move.

I found out there is a 'so many gallons per adult, per house' law in PA. The guys at the LHBS told me it was 350 gallons/yr or something like that.

 

[wailingguitar]

Why are you guys 'looking' for it?

There's no need to hunt. Get on the e-mail list or follow the group on Twitter. You'll have it delivered right to you as soon as it's official.

When will that be? Hell if we know. Refer to the comment on Molasses earlier...

I have been on the email list for a long time, it's kind of bugged... I have maybe received 1/2 the email updates for news that has been posted. It has happened enough that I don't even consider the auto-emails as a source and just go directly to the site.

 

[Kingfish]

it's illegal to home brew in Alabama? eff that! I'd move.

I found out there is a 'so many gallons per adult, per house' law in PA. The guys at the LHBS told me it was 350 gallons/yr or something like that.

Even if PA allowed 350/yr you would be way over the federal limit of 100/yr per person or 200/yr per household of two or more persons. I suspect PA law mirrors this.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/25.205

 

[Kingfish]

So truth is, nothing is happening and you just wanted to bump the thread?

Or just drive traffic to the website and subscriptions to the newsletter.

 

[aubiecat]

it's illegal to home brew in Alabama? eff that! I'd move.

You'd move from a state just because it's illegal to home brew?

We have had 1 arrest in Alabama for illegal home brewing and that was because his neighbors saw his gear and thought he had a meth lab. There is no evidence that he was even convicted for home brewing