Alabama vote.

[WarEagleBrewer]

CRAP! not on that calendar either....

 

[CGVT]

It didn't make it to the calendar...

 

[CGVT]

Could they possibly get to another special order calendar?

 

[WarEagleBrewer]

Is it too much to hope that it gets brought up and passed at 11:59 so it passes without need for the Governor's signature?

 

[Huff360]

At this point, I just don't see it happening.

There isn't much on the SOC, but I don't think we can make it through this one too....

Holtzsclaw needs to go.

 

[dford]

How many bills on latest calendar? Seems our Rep. Has forgotten about us.

 

[aubiecat]

I don't think Holtzclaw was the right guy. He pissed the senate minority off earlier today with his comment about backroom deals.

 

[WarEagleBrewer]

Hehe....that's right..."I don't know you and you dont know me...I don't make backroom deals"

 

[wailingguitar]

Hehe....that's right..."I don't know you and you dont know me...I don't make backroom deals"

And if you believe that, I got a bridge to sell you...

 

[CGVT]

They have another special order calendar

 

[wailingguitar]

At this point, I just don't see it happening.

There isn't much on the SOC, but I don't think we can make it through this one too....

Holtzsclaw needs to go.

I called his secretary just now and kind of shamed him, "he promised us a 'silver-bullet' and we're wondering where it is?"

 

[WarEagleBrewer]

I assume most of you are watching/listening to the feed....I'm a reserve duputy in the county I live in....the old girl that Holley was talking about got picked up by ABC on something else and they hooked her up on a century old technicality because she worked at two different places that served alcohol.....it was pretty funny at the time as well....

 

[CGVT]

Didn't make that one either

 

[WarEagleBrewer]

Well....guess we could call the governor's office and request it be put in his special session agenda....

 

[CGVT]

Special session tomorrow afternoon.

 

[CGVT]

Well....guess we could call the governor's office and request it be put in his special session agenda....

Is that how that works?

 

[WarEagleBrewer]

Well....I left a message for all the good it will do...

 

[WarEagleBrewer]

From my understanding....if the governor puts the bill on the agenda...it must only pass with a simple majority....if it is NOT on the agenda, it can be voted on, but must pass with a (2/3 i think) larger proportion...

 

[wailingguitar]

I emailed Waggoner and Holtzclaw and shamed them, "we put our faith in you to get this up for vote and you let us down"... I rarely sign correspondence with my title of Reverend, but thought it would add extra sting...

 

[wailingguitar]

So, wait, the Gov. can still make it happen? I guess more email is in order

 

[dford]

Very,very disappointed in our Senate for not getting HB354 , the Homebrew bill on the calendar. I know there were more important bill's out there , but I don't think this bill would have taken up much time at all for a vote. This year's bill is more restrictive than last years , which passed the Senate , but was voted down in the house. I plan on sending more emails and making a few more phone call's in the morning to let them know there are unhappy constituents out here that feel they have been let down.

 

[wailingguitar]

df, is Holtzclaw your senator? If so, rip him a good one. I shamed him, but since I don't speak to him with my vote it only goes so far. He shouldn't have made a promise he couldn't deliver. You know, if it had made it up for vote and we got shot down, that would have been different, this is a horse of a different color.

 

[dford]

df, is Holtzclaw your senator? If so, rip him a good one. I shamed him, but since I don't speak to him with my vote it only goes so far. He shouldn't have made a promise he couldn't deliver. You know, if it had made it up for vote and we got shot down, that would have been different, this is a horse of a different color.

Shadrack McGill is actually my Senator , but I will still send Holtzclaw another email.

 

[dford]

I know several homebrewer's that do live in Holtzclaw's senate district that are very unhappy right now.

 

[Accidic]

Wonder how much money ALCAP pumped in to get people dragging their feet...

 

[CGVT]

I'd be interested in seeing what other bills did not make it to vote.

With the Senate wasting so much of the session on philibusters and playing BS politics, they were really under the gun to get anything passed last night. I would not be surprised if there was enough opposition to the bill that Waggoner was concerned that it would spend too much time in "debate" and would have held up the rest of the bills that they knew would pass, so he didn't want to take the chance to put it on the SOC.

I also think that there isn't near the support for this type of bill than we like to think. As I said earlier, in Alabama there is no such thing as a polititian being too conservative. I don't think it is important enough for most of the guys to expend much if any political capital on. It really benefits very a very small percentage of Alabama citizens and supporting this bill puts a member clearly in the sites of ALCAP which is not a good place to be in this state.

 

[Huff360]

last years , which passed the Senate , but was voted down in the house.

Uh - not actually. You are correct it was voted down in the House, but that was where the Bill originated. It did not pass the Senate.

It has passed the Senate previously, yes. But not last year.

 

[Huff360]

Also -

You are free to say whatever you want to the Representatives, but please remember that we have to see most of those same folks again next year.

Try to keep it cordial.

 

[wailingguitar]

Also -

You are free to say whatever you want to the Representatives, but please remember that we have to see most of those same folks again next year.

Try to keep it cordial.

Well, I agree to a point. Both Waggoner and Bill "Silver bullet" Holtzclaw have some answering to do. They made promises they didn't keep and they should be shamed for it. As I put it to both of them, "we put our faith in you and you let us down"

Smitherman, on the other hand, is responsible for the majority of delays, keeping quite a few bills from getting up for vote-He needs reaming of the highest order. In his case, I didn't mention our bill, just referred to "many bills which did not get up for vote" because of his "disgraceful" behavior.

 

[Huff360]

I think we see eye to eye on this. I didn't say don't let them know how you feel, I said keep it cordial.

An eloquently worded you suck is fine. What we don't need are a few folks running off at the mouth spewing cuss words and such. I'm not saying anyone would do that... just a polite reminder.