Alabama vote.

[aubiecat]

HB354 is back on the calendar for tomorrow. It's #4 on the docket so maybe we will get a vote.

 

[Andrewtherooster]

Good luck!

 

[homebrewdad]

Here's to hoping that my Eeyore-like outlook on this is unfounded (for once).

 

[CGVT]

Email your Representative!

 

[jamoke]

Pardon my ignorance on this issue, but I'm curious...

Is it legal to ship brewing supplies (equipment, ingredients, etc) to Alabama residents?
Can residents order from on-line out of state suppliers?

 

[aubiecat]

Pardon my ignorance on this issue, but I'm curious...

Is it legal to ship brewing supplies (equipment, ingredients, etc) to Alabama residents?
Can residents order from on-line out of state suppliers?

Yes we can order from online out of state suppliers. We also have HBS in Alabama.
It's legal to buy anything and everything homebrew here but it's illegal to brew.

 

[40watt]

Fo' a high!

 

[jamoke]

It's legal to buy anything and everything homebrew here but it's illegal to brew.

Now that is bass ackwards and flippin insane.

It's OK to pay the state tax on equipment and ingredients but not OK to put the kettle on a flame or feed the yeast.

Wow.

They would have a hard time keeping the flame out under my brewpot.

Good luck on the vote this week...Keep up the good fight.

 

[aubiecat]

Since there are no taxes generated form homebrew itself they don't seem to care whether it's legal or not.
They don't seem to realize that homebrew legalization translates into more tax revenue due to higher sales on ingredients and equipment.
I think we have a good enough bill to get it passed this time. It is sponsored by 14 representatives from every walk of life so that is a good thing. The bill is highly restrictive but if that is what it takes to get the toe in the door then so be it.

 

[CGVT]

Agree, aubie.

The biggest problem is the "morals police". I wrote my rep, but I think he is a solid Bible thumping no. He has voted against every beer related bill that has come up.

I got this email today:

The homebrew bill is on the calendar for tomorrow (Apr. 19).

The bad news is it's behind the illegal alien bill revision.

Bill Miller
Right To Brew

 

[aubiecat]

The session starts at 9:00 am and the illegal alien bill comes up first so maybe they will get to ours.

 

[homebrewdad]

The session starts at 9:00 am and the illegal alien bill comes up first so maybe they will get to ours.

Doubtful.

But we might get lucky...

 

[dford]

Some of our lawmakers in Alabama are an utter embarassment. Listening to that clip from last year makes you wonder how some of them got voted in. I'm just glad my representative in this area is 100% for homebrewing and hoping maybe we can finally get this thing passed once and for all.

 

[aubiecat]

Even if it doesn't get a vote today it should get back on the calendar before the end of the session on May 21st.

 

[beergolf]

Good Luck.

We are pulling for you to get out of the Dark Ages.

 

[fly-fisher]

I have a question for those folks living in Alabama. Since it is legal to brew in Colorado, and the wife and I are headed to Alabama next month for a visit with family can I bring beer with me? We are looking at bringing two kegs in a custom keg serving cooler I am building. This beer is to celebrate a graduation for my nephew, and a wedding for my niece but will only be served at my brother in-laws house.

Thanks Dave

 

[kmos]

I have a question for those folks living in Alabama. Since it is legal to brew in Colorado, and the wife and I are headed to Alabama next month for a visit with family can I bring beer with me? We are looking at bringing two kegs in a custom keg serving cooler I am building. This beer is to celebrate a graduation for my nephew, and a wedding for my niece but will only be served at my brother in-laws house.

Thanks Dave

Seems like it should be fine, right? You're not brewing in Alabama, just driving some beer across state lines.

Besides, if you get pulled over... That's just Pepsi Cola, sir, in these here Cornies.

 

[dford]

I have a question for those folks living in Alabama. Since it is legal to brew in Colorado, and the wife and I are headed to Alabama next month for a visit with family can I bring beer with me? We are looking at bringing two kegs in a custom keg serving cooler I am building. This beer is to celebrate a graduation for my nephew, and a wedding for my niece but will only be served at my brother in-laws house.

Thanks Dave

Officially it's not legal to transport homebrew into Alabama but I don't think you'll have a problem unless you were pulled over and had a refrigerated truck full.

 

[homebrewdad]

I have a question for those folks living in Alabama. Since it is legal to brew in Colorado, and the wife and I are headed to Alabama next month for a visit with family can I bring beer with me? We are looking at bringing two kegs in a custom keg serving cooler I am building. This beer is to celebrate a graduation for my nephew, and a wedding for my niece but will only be served at my brother in-laws house.

Thanks Dave

You're fine as long as you don't try to sell it.

Note that we have LHBS here. The law is not enforced in any capacity, as the odds of it standing up to an appellate challenge are next to none.

The problem with Alabama is twofold:

1. To get almost any law changed literally requires an amendment to our state constitution. Every year, we have a dozen (or more) amendments on the ballot that go down to trivial crap like town boundaries, rights for municipalities to impose taxes, etc. It is 40 times longer than the US constitution, and is easily the longest in the world. We badly need a rewrite, but nobody wants to uncover all of the rot that would come from such a task...

2. Alabama legislators are some of the most unqualified, corrupt, self serving thieves anywhere in any form of government. If a bill doesn't make money for a sufficient portion of the legislators (or does not have enough public outcry to endanger their jobs), it gets ignored of filibustered until it is dropped.

In short, the Alabama lawmaking process is a joke, and anyone with any modicum of civil understanding is appalled and/or ashamed of it.

 

[Homercidal]

I just wanted to say,

Good luck. We're all counting on you.

 

[aubiecat]

Seems like it should be fine, right? You're not brewing in Alabama, just driving some beer across state lines.

Besides, if you get pulled over... That's just Pepsi Cola, sir, in these here Cornies.

Each state has it's own laws about transporting alcohol across state lines. I didn't know until recently there is a federal law against interstate alcohol transportation.

Just keep it covered or in your trunk and no one will bother you.

 

[fly-fisher]

Well I figured I would not have to much of a problem as I actually will not be the one transporting it. I am leaving that up to the wife's folks who are driving down and are in their early 70's who's going to stop them? The wife and I will be flying down a few days later. So I am in the clear till we start serving then the only thing I need to worry about is the new nephew in-law who works for the Alabama Correction Dept. but I can still whip his a$$. And he just won't be invite back up here to go fly-fishing or snowmobiling again? Bribery is great right.:rockin:

 

[aubiecat]

3:00pm Central and these goobers are still arguing over the 1st bill of the day.

 

[homebrewdad]

3:00pm Central and these goobers are still arguing over the 1st bill of the day.

Typical.

 

[ScottSingleton]

Apparently someone in the state is doing something since they just banned the sale of Founder's Dirty Bastard :/ http://www.wtop.com/?nid=681&sid=2833464

 

[nameless]

Actually that story is a bit dated. They're reconsidering the Bastard decision as of yesterday...

http://www.freethehops.org/blog/2012/04/founders-bastard-beer-approval-update/
http://beerpulse.com/2012/04/alabama-beverage-commission-reconsidering-founders-bastards-ban/

 

[ScottSingleton]

Actually that story is a bit dated. They're reconsidering the Bastard decision as of yesterday...

http://www.freethehops.org/blog/2012/04/founders-bastard-beer-approval-update/
http://beerpulse.com/2012/04/alabama-beverage-commission-reconsidering-founders-bastards-ban/

Lovely.. Leave it to the AP to post an outdated article today.

 

[TarVolon]

The biggest problem is the "morals police". I wrote my rep, but I think he is a solid Bible thumping no. He has voted against every beer related bill that has come up.

Send him Ecclesiastes 11:1-2, explaining how it's actually referring to the beer-making process and sharing homebrew with your friends. I don't care whether it's actually the correct interpretation, just make him believe it.

Best of luck

 

[landshark]

3:00pm Central and these goobers are still arguing over the 1st bill of the day.

RE-DONCKULOUS.

Sweet Home Alabama my ass. Looks like you'd have to pay me to live in that state.

 

[aubiecat]

Our bill was up next but they voted to adjourn for the day. Who knows when if ever the bill will get back on the calendar.