80 Quart Stainless Kettle with Lid for $55 plus shipping

[bja]

Long story short, after a few uses, the rim has gotten scratched (from turning it over to wash out in the driveway etc...) nothing major, just a few scuffs, and it looks like its actually turning orange in a few spots and starting to rust...

Not sure of the grade of stainless on these, but at least the one ive got (again, not roundeyesupply, but im sure theyre the same manufacturer) has me nervous about what it could be leeching into my mash

Sounds like you need to clean it better.

 

[ArcticBear]

Sounds like you need to clean it better.

how do you figure? it's oxidizing (aka rusting) on a few of the areas that were scratched... the tun gets completely cleaned every time its used

 

[bja]

how do you figure? it's oxidizing (aka rusting) on a few of the areas that were scratched... the tun gets completely cleaned every time its used

A little Bar Keepers Friend will take that orange right off.

 

[ArcticBear]

you're missing the point. "stainless" steel, shouldn't be rusting... that was my whole point. no one knows the grade of steel they are making these pots with, anything less than the 300 series of stainless shouldn't entirely be used for food, but that's just me. i'll keep using my mash tun cause it was cheap, until the lead poisoning rotts my brain, just figured i would mention it

 

[bja]

you're missing the point. "stainless" steel, shouldn't be rusting... that was my whole point. no one knows the grade of steel they are making these pots with, anything less than the 300 series of stainless shouldn't entirely be used for food, but that's just me. i'll keep using my mash tun cause it was cheap, until the lead poisoning rotts my brain, just figured i would mention it

There's no lead used in making stainless steel.

 

[LandoLincoln]

how do you figure? it's oxidizing (aka rusting) on a few of the areas that were scratched... the tun gets completely cleaned every time its used

Get some bar keeper's friend and make a thick paste. Apply that to the spots in question and this will re-passivate the stainless steel and stop it from rusting.

 

[sweetcell]

There's no lead used in making stainless steel.

not in this country, no... but...

 

[bja]

not in this country, no... but...

Like I said, there is no lead in stainless steel. Google "stainless steel metallurgical compositions".

 

[sweetcell]

Like I said, there is no lead in stainless steel. Google "stainless steel metallurgical compositions".

there is also no lead in children's toys, either... but...

 

[bja]

there is also no lead in children's toys, either... but...

I take it that you either didn't search for the metallurgical composition of stainless, or you did and didn't understand what you read.

 

[SpikeBrewing]

you're missing the point. "stainless" steel, shouldn't be rusting... that was my whole point. no one knows the grade of steel they are making these pots with, anything less than the 300 series of stainless shouldn't entirely be used for food, but that's just me. i'll keep using my mash tun cause it was cheap, until the lead poisoning rotts my brain, just figured i would mention it

Stainless steel can and will rust. It's a common misconception that it can't/won't. SS is still 70% iron. The higher the nickel content the less likely (and more expensive) the piece will be. The most common SS for homebrewing is 304 otherwise known as 18/8 (18% Chromium/ 8% Nickel). 316 or 18/10 (18% Chromium/ 10% Nickel) is sometimes used in valves but not as common in homebrewing. 18/0 (18% Chromium/ 0% Nickel) is common for utensils like forks, knives maybe your mash paddle. 18/0 is still 'stainless steel' but doesn't have the corrosion properties that 304 or 316 has but it's way cheaper and will work just fine for homebrewing.

More than likely these kettles are a 201 or 410 stainless. They have a lot lower Chromium and Nickel content meaning less corrosion resistant. Hold a magnet next to the kettle and more than likely it'll give a strong tug on it meaning it's not a 300 series austenitic stainless steel.

I take it that you either didn't search for the metallurgical composition of stainless, or you did and didn't understand what you read.

Lead is not called out as an ingredient in stainless, usually (I've heard of it added for added machinability), but the coke burned to make the iron could have lead and that could end up in the stainless steel so it's not completely hair brained.

 

[ArcticBear]

There's no lead used in making stainless steel.

the point is, just because some off racist product website tells you it's stainless steel... is it really?

of course there isn't lead in actual stainless steel...but what i'm saying is, just because we are being told it's stainless steel... is it really? how would you know?

 

[ArcticBear]

Stainless steel can and will rust. It's a common misconception that it can't/won't. SS is still 70% iron. The higher the nickel content the less likely (and more expensive) the piece will be. The most common SS for homebrewing is 304 otherwise known as 18/8 (18% Chromium/ 8% Nickel). 316 or 18/10 (18% Chromium/ 10% Nickel) is sometimes used in valves but not as common in homebrewing. 18/0 (18% Chromium/ 0% Nickel) is common for utensils like forks, knives maybe your mash paddle. 18/0 is still 'stainless steel' but doesn't have the corrosion properties that 304 or 316 has but it's way cheaper and will work just fine for homebrewing.

More than likely these kettles are a 201 or 410 stainless. They have a lot lower Chromium and Nickel content meaning less corrosion resistant. Hold a magnet next to the kettle and more than likely it'll give a strong tug on it meaning it's not a 300 series austenitic stainless steel.



Lead is not called out as an ingredient in stainless, usually (I've heard of it added for added maintainability), but the coke burned to make the iron could have lead and that could end up in the stainless steel so it's not completely hair brained.

right, i agree with you. and i'm not trying to start a fire sale of people uprising about these pots, they are a great deal. i just am weary about the compositions made to manufacture them that's all.

thank you for the info though, it is always good stuff to know

 

[LandoLincoln]

Lead doesn't rust. And if they were trying to rip you off on a stainless steel pot that wasn't stainless steel, they'd use something other than lead to try to fool you. Like aluminum.

Take a brass key and try to scratch your pot. If the brass doesn't scratch it, then it's not aluminum.

 

[sweetcell]

I take it that you either didn't search for the metallurgical composition of stainless, or you did and didn't understand what you read.

i take it that you have full confidence that these super cheap "stainless steel" pots from china are actually made of stainless steel. because chinese manufacturers of cheap goods have never lied about composition...

 

[hungry4hops]

wow! going to have to move this thread to the debate forum soon! to the op thanks for the link i love my new cheap pot!

 

[mblanks2]

Hold a magnet next to the kettle and more than likely it'll give a strong tug on it meaning it's not a 300 series austenitic stainless steel.

Magnet does not pull at all on these pots. Which means what? Good stainless?
I have commercial grade stainless steel refrigerators in my brewery and the magnet does stick to them.

Handles aren't just tacked on they have a full weld bead running the entire length of the handle contact area.

These pots are not Blichmann, but hey they aren't $400+ either.

Just saying.

 

[SpikeBrewing]

Magnet does not pull at all on these pots. Which means what? Good stainless?
I have commercial grade stainless steel refrigerators in my brewery and the magnet does stick to them.

Handles aren't just tacked on they have a full weld bead running the entire length of the handle contact area.

These pots are not Blichmann, but hey they aren't $400+ either.

Just saying.

Little to no magnet means 300 series (for a stock pot that would be 304). That's a good thing and what you want to see.

Things that are covered in a stainless sheet (for aesthetics) like a refrigerator or something similar is more than likely 200 or 400 series stainless which is magnetic. There is no reason a fridge would need to be a 300 series.

 

[cww]

Little to no magnet means 300 series (for a stock pot that would be 304). That's a good thing and what you want to see.

Things that are covered in a stainless sheet (for aesthetics) like a refrigerator or something similar is more than likely 200 or 400 series stainless which is magnetic. There is no reason a fridge would need to be a 300 series.

So, you are saying these pots are a pretty badass deal? I was hoping to possibly make an entire brewery with them. Would these be able to brew 15 gallons of fermentable wort?

 

[bja]

i take it that you have full confidence that these super cheap "stainless steel" pots from china are actually made of stainless steel. because chinese manufacturers of cheap goods have never lied about composition...

Yes. Do you really think that someone, Chinese or not could make a pot out of mild steel or aluminum or anything else and pass it off as stainless? You really can't be that naive, or can you?

 

[bja]

Lead is not called out as an ingredient in stainless, usually (I've heard of it added for added maintainability), but the coke burned to make the iron could have lead and that could end up in the stainless steel so it's not completely hair brained.

If you want to take it that far, I'm sure that there's lead in everything around us, though the amounts are probably unmeasurable.

 

[hungry4hops]

they just sent me a customer appreciation email with a code for 10.00 off any order of $55 or more so i ordered another pot!:rockin: heres the code= WWZ10OFF

 

[wilserbrewer]

they just sent me a customer appreciation email with a code for 10.00 off any order of $55 or more so i ordered another pot!:rockin: heres the code= WWZ10OFF

Hahaha, yea me too, I briefly thought about doubling down and ordering another kettle I don't really need...hahaha

Then I saw this thread...oh no, buyers remorse??? A 96 qt stainless AND a 70 qt stainless for $47 plus $30 shipping, oh my, how low can we go???
BUT, no longer available

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/do...l-96-70-qt-stainless-steel-stock-pots-414533/

 

[Indianhead_Brewer]

Oh my! I'm not sure I have the will power to resist a kettle purchase with $10 off to boot. Has anyone installed a weldless bulkhead in one of these yet?

 

[MisterClean]

Oh my! I'm not sure I have the will power to resist a kettle purchase with $10 off to boot. Has anyone installed a weldless bulkhead in one of these yet?

That's what Im curious about as well. I wouldn't mind getting a head start on an eherms build with a some of these.

 

[mblanks2]

Has anyone installed a weldless bulkhead in one of these yet?

I plan on punching mine tomorrow with a Greenlee Punch set. I'll post back with progress reports.

 

[wilserbrewer]

The 25 gal. seems thicker and is at .9 mm, the 17 gal. is .8mm, this is the range of what the Bayou Classic pots are as well.

http://www.bayouclassiccooking.com/stainless-steel-stockpots--lids.html

pretty good gauge / inch / mm chart linked below...
http://www.kitco.com/jewelry/gauge-inch-mm.html

The B/C 44 qt to 122 qt stainless pots range from .8mm to 1.0 mm and are priced from $109 to $299 plus $5 shipping, some of the B/C pots show welded handles similar to the Roundeye pots as well.

A weldless bulkhead should be no problem, just need to use care drilling as always! Cheers!

 

[rausched]

Thanks OP, the 20 gallon pot will be a fathers day gift for me. Now I need to research a burner to buy to match it.

 

[wilserbrewer]

Thanks OP, the 20 gallon pot will be a fathers day gift for me. Now I need to research a burner to buy to match it.

Just to clarify, these pots are roughly 17 gallon, the larger pot is roughly 25 gallon.

 

[WileECoyote]

Hello I was looking at the site and it say's the 24" pot is 24 qt, and the 30" pot is only 20 qt, Im guessing typo, anyone know what size the 30" pot really is ?

I already have a 15 gal pot, So Im looking for a 8 to 10 gal kettle for heating strike water and for doing my 5 gal batches.

Thanks and Cheers