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The excessive taxes areall specifically designed to make people quit, and deter others from starting.

I heard an interview several months back with a woman in the administration (can't remember her name) who either previously or currently was tied into a high echelon health position (like surgeon generals office or something)

She was talking about a single payer health care system and she said the number one thing that had to change in America for such a system to be successful was the overall health of the average american must improve so as to reduce the stress load on the system. She specifically cited things that could be controlled, such as people quitting smoking, and people exercising to reduce things like diabetes.

It was only a month or two later the big taxes were pushed though on tobacco, and now the new regulations just were passed to make it even more expensive and seriously curb the tobacco companies ability to advertise and lower the use of addictive aditives and nicotine. It is a concerted attack on the cigarrette industry.

I smoke largely because I am addicted, bth to the nicotine, and more problematic, to the social and physical habit. In the back of my mind I approve of this approach as the tobacco companies have gotten fat for far to long on a product they know is deadly, with little or no redeeming value to the product. I know it will mean lost jobs, but really, it is past time to address the problem. Re-educate the workers, or switch the fields to other products.

I did hear a while back that as taxes have grown, some of the farmers have rotated fields to other smokable products that are less legal shall we say. In some of the smaller southern communities where everyone knows everyone the law has actually looked the other way if the amount of product being produced was kept to a level that stayed beneath the radar. Not saying that is the answer to the lost tobacco jobs, just looking at cause and affect.
 
I don't smoke now, have been off of them for several years this time. I know if I smoke 1 I'll be back to 2 packs a day in a week. I LOVE SMOKING. But, I'm scared of the Big C. I get effin' peesed that the govenment can only do this to the taxes because cigarettes are bad for everything and the people that smoke them are subhuman trolls. They have even done a fair job of making the people who smoke feel O.K. with being treated like a second class citizen. Forget that the government subsidized the tobacco farmers for years. They even put cigarettes in the G.I.'s ration packs. I don't buy the "they're trying to help the smokers" bit. They're trying to generate income by praying off of a group that has a physical addiction that is extremely hard to break. If they gave a damn about helping the smokers, they would take all of the tax money generated from the tobacco tax and make the cessation programs free. As a friend of mine said "If the Founding Father's were here today, they would be gathering an army to march on Washington DC".
I've got plenty more rant about Big Brother, but this will do for now! - Dwain
 
Chicago cigarette prices are ridiculous. I'm so in the middle about topics such as this because I smoke, but only smoke in moderation.

I like to have a couple when I'm drinking or if I'm hanging out with friends/bandmates or whatever but I don't let my self smoke at work, at home or when I'm with family, etc. I'd say, on average, I smoke about a pack a week. And I don't see anything wrong with that...

The high price of cigarettes makes sense in some respects and, like Zen said, in the back of my mind I think its a good thing, but to ask someone to pay 10 dollars for something that cost a mere fraction of that to produce is outrageous.

Its kind of like the smoking bans that are happening everywhere, in some respects, it makes sense and I like it, it stops me from smoking a lot and I smell a lot better when I come home from the bars, but it has its drawbacks as well.

When it comes down to it, I'm just annoyed at this nation's fickleness with tobacco. At one point it was ok to smoke in friggin' hospitals and doctors even "endorsed" cigarettes for various reasons. Now its looked down upon and demonized as some evil habit.

If all else fails, you can always move to Europe, they let you smoke in certain places there, still, and, AFAIK, cigs are still around 4-5 euros for good ones at most shops...
 
I quit about 15 years ago, and I did somke everything pretty heavily in college - back when a carton was $4.00 !

but I have been known to bum cigs from equally intoxicated neighbors on occasion..I just think back to when I was a kid - everyone around me smoking cigs, pipes, cigars, and drinking martinis.. ash trays in every room and bathroom

seemed like tobacco and alcohol were the very axis of adult communication..
 
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