2V SS Brewtech Brewing System Review Page

[rwinzing]

I just ordered the 2V system, I been running 120V on my kettle and Tun so this is going to really speed up the process. Very excited to get it and break it in.

 

[Southern_Junior]

I just ordered the 2V system, I been running 120V on my kettle and Tun so this is going to really speed up the process. Very excited to get it and break it in.

Awesome! More people in this thread the better. I’m having trouble dialing in my OG. Idk what the deal is, but I think I need to do a deep dive into my boil off/dead space/etc. in Brewfather this weekend.

 

[rwinzing]

Awesome! More people in this thread the better. I’m having trouble dialing in my OG. Idk what the deal is, but I think I need to do a deep dive into my boil off/dead space/etc. in Brewfather this weekend.

Let me know what you find.

 

[msjy2008]

I have reached my OG of 1.070 instead of 1.066 mashing at a lower temp 155degrees although I still consider getting SSB 3v with rims recirc through my mash tun so I can get the mashing temp.

 

[Hwk-I-St8]

I just got into craft beer and home-brewing and was wondering how one would go about ebrewing with a 2 V RIMS system? I looked at the SSbrewtech website and didn't even see a RIMS system included in the 2 v setup. Is it expected to purchase the RIMs separately or is there some other heat source for the 2 v?

A true 2 vessel system is also called Kettle RIMS or K-RIMS. The idea is that, instead of a RIMS tube, you use your kettle and its heating system as your heating element during the mash.

You mash in a MLT with a false bottom, filter basket or filter bag. You heat your mash water in the kettle, then move it (pump or drain) to the MLT and dough in. During the mash, water is slowly drained to the kettle, where it is heated and pumped back to the MLT. You measure the temperature at the point the wort is exiting the kettle. At the end of the mash, you simply turn off the pump that pumps the wort back to the MLT, let the kettle fill and proceed with your boil.

Typically this is done as a full-volume no sparge mash. You start with the full volume of water just as you would in a standard BIAB.

There are a number of advantages to K-RIMS vs recirculating BIAB. First, you have an option to do a less than full volume mash while still doing a true batch sparge (usually with cold water) where you can add the sparge water, stir, vorlauf and then drain your second runnings to the kettle. You could heat the full volume, drain some for the sparge to a cooler or other insulated vessel, then use to to sparge, but that's really not a 2 vessel system anymore.

The second one is somewhat controversial with respect to its value, but it's something that matters to me. You can get clearer wort into the kettle. If you dough in, let the mash rest for 5-10 minutes, then vorlauf prior to doing your full recirculation, you get the same grain bed filtering you get from a typical HERMS system. The result is clear wort going into your kettle. Many people say you don't need clear wort to get clear beer, and this is absolutely true. However, I believe that, with some types of beer, clear wort results in better beer. This is just from my experience with both. YMMV.

A third advantage is that its conducive to LODO (low oxygen brewing). One key element for the LODO process is underletting your grains. You put the grains in the MLT prior to adding the water, then add the water from the bottom, filling up around the grains. This prevents the splashing you get when you add grains to the water. It isn't a huge factor for me as I haven't experience the wonder of a LODO beer, and I love the beer I'm brewing, so I do not feel compelled to jump through the hoops necessary for LODO. It's my opinion that if you don't do everything required, you might as well ignore it. There's either hot side aeration or there isn't. There's no point in doing it halfway.

Let me know if you have any questions about this brewing method. I use recirculating eBIAB right now, but plan to get a second kettle do K-RIMS for my high gravity stouts.

 

[CatsCradle]

This may seem as a rather novice question but what is the difference between the 2v brewing panel vs the 3 v brewing panel. If someone can buy the mash tun separately for the 2 v system what differentiates the two controls?

 

[rwinzing]

From what I understand the 3V you need two 240V lines so you can have two elements on at the same time. So you can heat your sparge water while running your RIMS. The 2V has the ability to control two elements but only one at a time. So I have the 2V I can either have it heating my sparge water or on the boil. The 3V also can control three different elements. But again you would need two 240V lines.

What I have done is I have a 120V RIMS Rocket. So I preheat my mash water in one of my 240V kettles and right before I get to my strike temp I move it to my mash tun. The 120V has no issue holding it at my mash temp (I use a brewcommander for my RIMS Rocket). Then I use the SS for my sparge water and boil kettle.

 

[Southern_Junior]

Anybody see the brew cubes released? They look nice, but way more than what I would have spent. Funny part, it looks like you’d still need extensions for the controller to the kettles.

https://www.ssbrewtech.com/pages/brewcube

 

[msjy2008]

Hello:

Noob question.

I just purchased the ssb rims heater. Do you run in on the automatic mode aka set temperature value then turn rims heater element on with pump running?

 

[Southern_Junior]

Hello:

Noob question.

I just purchased the ssb rims heater. Do you run in on the automatic mode aka set temperature value then turn rims heater element on with pump running?

Right. The heating element will cycle on and off based on the temp of the wort being circulated through it.

 

[241]

I've been looking at the 2V system to do a HERMS setup. Is there any concern with the elements and plugs on the kettles utilizing the ss proprietary connector?

 

[msjy2008]

I've been looking at the 2V system to do a HERMS setup. Is there any concern with the elements and plugs on the kettles utilizing the ss proprietary connector?

What do you mean by proprietary connector?

 

[DrStrange]

Not sure if this the right place for this, but for folks concerned about customer service issues with SS- I just had the best experience. Finally got to try my 5gal 3v RIMS system and noted that the secondary accessory outlet on the controller wasn't working (not a huge deal as I had the electricians put in a 120v outlet between the 240s so dropped in a power strip and toggled the switch to get the 2nd pump working - although not really needed as the way I hooked my connections up the 1st pump could handle the load). So entered a ticket on the support page, figuring 1-3 business days for a reply (this is Friday afternoon). 3 hours later I get an email that they are sending out a replacement controller. So for me, so far I'm happy with this company.

 

[Southern_Junior]

Anybody doing k-rims in their 2V? InterestEd in the prospects:

 

[SkinnyPete]

Ugh, just noticing this thread after starting a new one about boil temperatures, so pardon the double post.

Anyone have experience with weak boils here? I just got a 20 gallon 2v system and could only hit 210.5-210.6 during an 8 gal water only test. Tried each element. Running off 30A dedicated, at 100% manual setting in a 65 degree room. Left for 15 minutes with cover off - couldn't break 210.5-210.6 and the boil was medium at best. Might be good enough for a hot break, but 'm coming from a brew-boss single vessel system where I could hit 212 and a crazy violent boil of 8 gallons. Would usually have to turn down to keep the liquid splashing outside the kettle. So, I'm just surprised. Any thoughts? Also to note I'm getting a high hum from one of the elements and a low hum from the controller itself. I assume that's "normal", but worth mentioning.

 

[msjy2008]

Ugh, just noticing this thread after starting a new one about boil temperatures, so pardon the double post.

Anyone have experience with weak boils here? I just got a 20 gallon 2v system and could only hit 210.5-210.6 during an 8 gal water only test. Tried each element. Running off 30A dedicated, at 100% manual setting in a 65 degree room. Left for 15 minutes with cover off - couldn't break 210.5-210.6 and the boil was medium at best. Might be good enough for a hot break, but 'm coming from a brew-boss single vessel system where I could hit 212 and a crazy violent boil of 8 gallons. Would usually have to turn down to keep the liquid splashing outside the kettle. So, I'm just surprised. Any thoughts? Also to note I'm getting a high hum from one of the elements and a low hum from the controller itself. I assume that's "normal", but worth mentioning.

Same here I have a 20 gallon 2 v system. I get up to 212 on a 12 gallon boil, then I usually decrease the %element on and continue to boil at 210.5-210.6 and I also get the same humming sound from the element and controller.

 

[JeffersonStateBrewing]

ALRIGHTY THEN! i just ordered the 20 gallon 3v system (Sorta). I say sorta because i contacted support via email Tuesday to see if they have the system in stock and ready to go. they said they did. i went out of town for work and when i got home last night (wednesday) i went to order the system and they were out of stock. ARG! so today i put one together in my shopping basket piece meal. I ended up with:

3V control box
20 gallon infusion mash tun
2x 20 gallon eKettles
ebrew rims system

i also ordered:

whirlpool valve
4.5 foot extension cable
8 foot extension cable
vorlauf attachment for the recirc
recirc kit
2x silicone ekettle mats

all total it was about $4k OUCH but i wanted to get the system on order before it could back order any individual components that might render the system useless until that part is available again. patience is not one of my strong points.

I went hunting for a 70x24 inch stainless prep table to mount the new system on when it arrives, but, today there are none to be found in my area, i also went hunting for a plate chiller. after a chat with golddiggle i found the plate chiller i want but the price tag is a bit much $505! not today! i already spent too much on the ssb system. so i bought a 30 plate chiller and an extra chugger pump from a member here for $200. this is more in my price range and the extra pump sealed the deal IMO. will upgrade later.

Next is the 1/2 bbl unitank. was gonna go that today but just didnt want to blow the extra wad of cash today.

I dont know ETA for shipping, or even where the company is located. hopefully the system will show up next week and i might be able to brew NEXT weekend.

I purchased the system mostly because of the reviews, feedback and discussion here in this thread, even if the thread is older and fallen by the wayside.

when i get the system up and running i will try to remember to come back and update.

 

[Southern_Junior]

Hopefully it’s not to late to change your order. I would put a ticket in with support to see if they can group it all and give you the package discount.

also, the kettles come with mats. Idk if you wanted those for a different reason, but I was delightfully surprised when mine showed up.

 

[JeffersonStateBrewing]

Hopefully it’s not to late to change your order. I would put a ticket in with support to see if they can group it all and give you the package discount.

That we the first thing I tried! They responded with a list of the major components to add to my basket individually and a note 'thanks for the interest in the compete 3V system but we do not know when we would be able to assemble kits for stock'... Yeah thanks!

also, the kettles come with mats. Idk if you wanted those for a different reason, but I was delightfully surprised when mine showed up.

Well $#1ť¡ I didn't know the kettles came with mats! I am sure it says it somewhere but I must have overlooked it. And they do not offer order changes or cancellations of any kind once the order is placed. I could return after I receive them less 10% restocking fee and shipping. I will keep them and have extra or use other than intended purpose. Oh well

 

[JeffersonStateBrewing]

I received email(s) today from SSB containing ups grind tracking numbers. One email for every component each containing tracking numbers so I got 9 total emails with 9 total tracking numbers. Weird but whatever. Today being a 'holiday' means UPS won't actually pick up packages from SSB until tomorrow after noon. At least they are 'in the mail'

As soon as everything shows up, since I didn't buy as a kit, I also didn't order the 'essentials kit', I will need to order valves and house fittings. So I won't get to brew for another week.

 

[JeffersonStateBrewing]

Received my SSB order! Everything actually arrived last saturday. I have not yet opened any of the packages yet to see all the cool kit. I am waiting for a time to open the packages until i can either build, buy, or otherwise acquire some kind of table or stand. at which point i MAY make an unboxing video (doubtful tho).

In the mean time i still have to add two dedicated 30 amp circuits to the breaker box and build extension cords from the breaker box to where i think i want to set up stand/table.

Today I went shopping. I bought 80 feet of 10/3 SOOW cord, this will make two 40 foot extension cords. I also bought two circuit breakers, two 2-gang breakout boxes 2 dryer plug style outlets, bang box outlet cover plates and associated bobs and bits. Also ordered four 6L-30R cord ends from one of the big box stored due to the fact that they had 3 in stock locally until i was standing at the proper shelf looking for these cord ends when another customer grabbed the remain 3 from the shelf right before my eyes. Prices have gone thru the roof on EVERYTHING. Just these few items at the local orange and blue big box stores cost just south of $400.00

I have not bought any of the extra parts necessary to actually brew yet, such as silicone hose or 1 1/2 tri-clamp fittings or clamps and gaskets. Maybe next week?

 

[doug293cz]

Received my SSB order! Everything actually arrived last saturday. I have not yet opened any of the packages yet to see all the cool kit. I am waiting for a time to open the packages until i can either build, buy, or otherwise acquire some kind of table or stand. at which point i MAY make an unboxing video (doubtful tho).

In the mean time i still have to add two dedicated 30 amp circuits to the breaker box and build extension cords from the breaker box to where i think i want to set up stand/table.

Today I went shopping. I bought 80 feet of 10/3 SOOW cord, this will make two 40 foot extension cords. I also bought two circuit breakers, two 2-gang breakout boxes 2 dryer plug style outlets, bang box outlet cover plates and associated bobs and bits. Also ordered four 6L-30R cord ends from one of the big box stored due to the fact that they had 3 in stock locally until i was standing at the proper shelf looking for these cord ends when another customer grabbed the remain 3 from the shelf right before my eyes. Prices have gone thru the roof on EVERYTHING. Just these few items at the local orange and blue big box stores cost just south of $400.00

I have not bought any of the extra parts necessary to actually brew yet, such as silicone hose or 1 1/2 tri-clamp fittings or clamps and gaskets. Maybe next week?

Why do you need (4X) L6-30Rs?

Brew on

 

[JeffersonStateBrewing]

Why do you need (4X) L6-30Rs?

Brew on

I dunno... YET

Because 4 was only 15$ more than 1 at the local pro electrical supply store? Might make some extra extension cord? When I ordered my system I ordered one 4 foot and one 8 foot SSBT extension cords because I didn't know what to expect as some people on this thread were complaining about the length of cords included with the system I kinda figured better safe than sorry.

Yeah I know, if I wish to make more extension cords I still need the male cord ends. But that is a project on the 'wish list' at the moment LOL.

 

[JeffersonStateBrewing]

So after all that! Getting SOOW cable and ordering the necessary compatible cord ends to make extension cables, the orange big box store sends me a email today to say that my cable ends will not be delivered today but rather the 19th! Gah!

So gonna be a while again until I can set up the system to give it a whirl. Oh well, such is my life.

In the mean time. After looking for alternatives to my extension cord end woes, I found, of coarse at the same orange big box store website... Pre-made SOOW 6L-30 extension cords in 25, 36, 50 and 100 foot lengths for cheaper than it cost to make your own. Two 50' cords would have cost me 190$ which was only 6$ more than I paid for 80 (2x40') feet of bare cables alone.

For any one interested:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/parkwor...n-Cord-NEMA-L6-30P-to-L6-30R-885644/316429665
Might buy a set of 50 footers later, in case I feel like brewing outside or in the neighbors driveway. Yeah right!

Also thru do have other brands in other lengths. Might be cheaper than SSBT's extension cables?