(another) Alton Brown/Good Eats "Amber Waves" Episode Discussion

findthefish · Jul 28, 2008

MOD EDIT: This thread was created by moving all OT discussion from the "Amber Waves" challenge thread. Continue the AB bashing here.

I thought we were joking about this.

EdWort · Jul 28, 2008

Let's cram all this stuff in the fermenter (and scratch the crap out of it). What an idiot. There's a lot of "starch" in this water.

Flame out hops called dry hopping.

I could not watch any more..

Alton, stick to your day job.

Hagen · Jul 28, 2008

I think I just love and respect barley yeast and hops too much to put them through that.

Laurel · Jul 28, 2008

EdWort said:
Let's cram all this stuff in the fermenter (and scratch the crap out of it). What an idiot. There's a lot of "starch" in this water.

Flame out hops called dry hopping.

I could not watch any more..

Alton, stick to your day job.

He messes up so many brewing terms. lol :drunk:

DonkeyShoes · Jul 28, 2008

I'm disappointed...Good Eats is my favorite cooking show. I haven't seen this episode since I started brewing however.

SavageSteve · Jul 28, 2008

But I don't have any surgical gloves to stop cross contamination when I bottle! :cross:

I love "Good Eats", but yeah, Alton, stick to your day job. This episode set brewing back about 10 years.

Short Drive · Jul 28, 2008

While the processes and terminology may be wrong. That particular show got me interested in home brewing. Being a chef I know better than to follow an A.B. recipe and or show. So that led me to you guys. I'll never be the same.

polarbearbrewing · Jul 28, 2008

wow im shocked!

i love Good Eats and i love the scientific side of cooking he brings to the table but good God man, leave the brewing to us lol

BlindLemonLars · Jul 28, 2008

SavageSteve said:
This episode set brewing back about 10 years.

I don't know, I'm willing to bet it got a lot of people interested in brewing who otherwise never would have considered it. Personally, it got me interested again after my 20 year break! My girl and I were watching the show, and I kept pointing out mistakes Alton was making. She asked how I knew, and I told her about all the beer I used to make in college. "Sounds like fun!" said she.

Next thing I knew, we were back at the old LHBS buying ingredients. A few hundred gallons and a few thousand dollars later, here I am. :cross:

Baldy_Beer_Brewery · Jul 28, 2008

Laurel said:
Alton uses bleach. I'm sure it contributes some pleasant flavors to the final product.

Not in the right concentration. As long as you don't go crazy with it, bleach is fine.

And Alton Brown just gets on my nerves no matter what he is doing in the kitchen.

beerthirty · Jul 28, 2008

ya, let me see, ummm NO!

Jilaman · Jul 28, 2008

This episode too got me the bug in my ear to start brewing. I do look on in disbelief at his techniques. But he does emphasize sanitation. And I still use bleach for sanitation, and I have not had an off flavor or infection yet, and it is still cheaper than any other form of sanitzer.

BigKahuna · Jul 28, 2008

SavageSteve said:
This episode set brewing back about 10 years.

I was 21 and brewing 9 years ago, and didn't to anything this stupid.
The benefit of AG...errr...AB is that he gets the masses interested in things.
So his method sucks and his ingredients are poorly used...We always say..I'ts hard to screw up beer. He proved it.

I wish there was a way to get an accurate count of people that are now brewing or at least researching because of this episode.

Shipwrecked · Jul 28, 2008

I'm one of those guys that had never brewed until I watched that show. I was sitting home one rainy saturday and was bored out of my mind. I saw the show, went to the internet, found a homebrew shop not too far away, and went and bought the stuff to start brewing. My LHBS recommended I get started using a different process and gave me a simple recipe/directions sheet to follow. My first brew probably sucked, but I was proud. I even shared it with friends - I can't imagine why they didn't drink much? A lot of brews and a few comp medals later, I am so glad that Alton Brown was on TV making brewing look so fun (and easy)!

SavageSteve · Jul 28, 2008

OK, OK...

I don't doubt that this episode got many people interested in brewing. No problem with that.

I watched this episode from the perspective of someone who has brewed for years, so yes, it was pretty scary to watch. I can imagine that for someone who has never brewed or watched someone brew before, this episode was pretty cool.

But if you're going to try to bring homebrewing to "the masses", at least do it without spreading bad advice. Doing it "the right way" would not have been any harder!

Revvy · Jul 28, 2008

So what did food network re-broadcast it????

Mods, can you cram this thread in with the threads created LAST time it aired???

Seriously, he rocks, he's the consumate cooking DIY'er....but he made a few mistakes, and at the same time did what very few things, and people did, not since Charlie Papazian and Mr Beer have so many people gotten into homebrewing....(who of course came here and we set them straight.

)

So he deserves some props....

BuffaloSabresBrewer · Jul 28, 2008

Mod said:
Continue the AB bashing here.

AB is a poopy head

Revvy · Jul 28, 2008

SavageSteve said:
OK, OK...

I don't doubt that this episode got many people interested in brewing. No problem with that.

But if you're going to try to bring homebrewing to "the masses", at least do it without spreading bad advice. Doing it "the right way" would not have been any harder!

At least he's not picking chicken feather's out of his yeast before pitching, like SOME video brewers have done....but I won't name any names here (egiarc ebut)

SavageSteve · Jul 28, 2008

Revvy said:
At least he's not picking chicken feather's out of his yeast before pitching, like SOME video brewers have done....but I won't name any names here (egiarc ebut)

Oh man! I saw some of his videos, but not that one! Gotta check that one out.

Revvy · Jul 28, 2008

SavageSteve said:
Oh man! I saw some of his videos, but not that one! Gotta check that one out.

Ohyoumissedsomegood****man!!! Actually it may not have been chicken feathers...it might have been pigeon.

pickles · Jul 28, 2008

qoute from food network "Once the mash is cooled to 80 degrees it is now safe to add the yeast, ..."

thewurzel · Jul 28, 2008

Good Brew Recipe courtesy Alton Brown
See this recipe on air Wednesday Aug. 06 at 8:30 PM ET/PT.

Enjoy

BigKahuna · Jul 28, 2008

SO!
Let us stop bitching about it.
I am #1 on the list of home brewer Guests to be on the next Brew Show with AB! We can make it an hour long special, we'll visit brew festivals, interview Charlie P. We'll explore extract vs. Partial Mash vs. All Grain.

We will correct the methodology of His Greatness Alton Brown, and we will spread the word of Good Beer to the Masses.

fat x nub · Jul 28, 2008

i think he needs to join these forums and read a brewing vocab book. thats just sad. my first brew was more educated than that

polarbearbrewing · Jul 28, 2008

as previously stated, i love alton's show but it makes me wonder how accurate the info regarding his other topics has been...all that stuff stood out to us because we research this topic and are fairly knowledgable about it...do i know the proper way to cook a souffle (sp?) no...does alton? your guess is as good as mine

my favorite part was "your kit may have things like a racking cane, capper, and hydrometer but those arent really necessary so we wont use them"

LMAO

pickles · Jul 28, 2008

well in his defense you don't really need those things but the rest is a joke!

Coastarine · Jul 28, 2008

Say what you want about AB and even about that episode, but that episode is THE singular reason that I realized I could brew. Until I saw that episode I did not know how to homebrew and did not desire to learn.

zweasel · Jul 29, 2008

I think that everyone should stop bashing AB and start thanking him, like so many have said already he brought allot of us to homebrewing. Three years ago, I wanted to try to make my own beer, like so many friend had already, but never knew how or were to start until I seen AB 's show. I even made the same brew the same way. I recorded the show with the DVR and played it back while making my first brew. It actually tasted very good. Now I make better tasting beer but for that being the first it was not bad.

Thanks AB my house will never smell the same again, you can always catch a hint of hops in the air!

BuffaloSabresBrewer · Jul 29, 2008

pst

he just reads the script

pickles · Jul 29, 2008

I love good eats; its on my dvr list. That being said, he claims on his website to be the head writer

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