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Trust me, it was enough for me too!

Yes, thinks are decidedly better. I seriously curtailed the beer for a while completely respecting the 1/1.5, and then (as discussed above) talked to her about it. At that time she said it wasn't a "hard fast" rule, and she just didn't want me drinking SO MUCH. FF to now, I drink 3 or 4...

Point of fact is that I didn't know they didn't need 02 at that stage... Bottle conditioning at all -- I thought the yeast needed some O2 for the conditioning. But thanks for letting me to know -- I will bear that in mind for my next bottle day. Thanks!

Supposed to bottle condition this for a couple of weeks but I'm now nervous to try my first homebrew... patience has NOT been a problem for me. It seems that it is with most people... but here it's been THREE weeks (fully 1 week more than "required") and I still haven't had one... Nervous...

She does not.

I want to provide an update but if you have picked up anything about me it's that I tend toward wordiness... So I'll try to keep it on point. The other night I saw an opportunity (based on SWMBO's mood) to discuss gently the issue of beer. I brought it up and kind of poked for a reason...

Sure I'll tell her the guys in my beer-drinking forum suggested that I leave her so I can drink more beer. :mug::mug::mug::tank::drunk::drunk:

that's a matter of perspective: Would I rather wonder what it was, or bring up a months old argument, and hate myself for the rest of the weekend?

haha ok... then, this: I am terrible at arguing (discussing?) and remembering past arguments (she's not, go figure)... but I do recall that she insists that this is not a "control" issue. What I mean is that she says this is not about controlling me, but about something else, specific. (i...

let's just don't talk about it...

suggestions for getting recommendations about a counselor?

Tried that TxBrew. Response being "you are going to say you'll do what I want [phrased as "what we agreed on"] and then still do what you want to aren't you" followed by meaning but not saying "if you loved me you'd..."

Only to much disagreement and me feeling like what I put my foot down about is stupid, and making me feel like an *******. She usually just replies that she "has changed so much for me" and stuff. And flips it on me -- kind of "what have you ever done for me." I don't want to just sell...

I can't respond. If I did it would be for me to tell myself to grow a pair, as has been said by many already. I honestly do not know what to say. As I said earlier, standing up for this just makes me feel like an *******.

if you read through all my posts in this thread you will notice my reference to Pavolv's dog.....

I suppose I am hopeful that once she sees that I can comfortably (ie, without DTs) have one beer every 1.5 weeks, then she'll relax the "rules" and we can discuss it reasonably. I mean she is generally a reasonable person.

Bluntness is fine. I appreciate the point and obviously common (man's) wisdom would be that I just need to grow a pair. Just doesn't seem that easy in practice -- I just end up feeling like an *******.

Yes, it's a very good point. And I don't disagree. I don't know if counseling is the answer or what. (I mean for me, or her, or both of us separate, or together).

Update is, more of the same. I can still consume 1 beer every 1.5 weeks. She threw in something new the other day, in that "one beer" is ONE twelve ounce serving... but that one will not stand, I just haven't had to cross that bridge yet. It's not bad for me to have some outside control, as I...

glad you like them. I got a new lens since I first started this thread. :D