I tried adding a little bit of different flavoring to samples. Adding red raspberry extract was closer to what I want, but not perfect. Caramel was a complete miss. Cherry was nice, but a complete miss. Orange extract was really good, but also completely wrong for Dr. Pepper.
Dr. Pepper Clone
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I have been waiting for the secret to break and the actual recipe to be posted?
In desperation I bought a bottle of the Sodastream Dr. Pete. Not a bad taste considering the artificial sweetener. (I am afraid to ask what it is.)
Used almost the whole bottle in a 3 gallon mini keg.
No one complained too much and it went pretty fast.
Cost was more than I would have liked at about .20 a glass, which is not that much cheaper than cans on sale.
I know there are lots of clones out there that are obviously close enough that people are buying them. Are they just as secretive about their recipe?
We really need more horsepower on this!
Tom
I have been waiting for the secret to break and the actual recipe to be posted?
In desperation I bought a bottle of the Sodastream Dr. Pete. Not a bad taste considering the artificial sweetener. (I am afraid to ask what it is.)
Used almost the whole bottle in a 3 gallon mini keg.
No one complained too much and it went pretty fast.
Cost was more than I would have liked at about .20 a glass, which is not that much cheaper than cans on sale.
I know there are lots of clones out there that are obviously close enough that people are buying them. Are they just as secretive about their recipe?
We really need more horsepower on this!
Tom
Are you making soda-pop and beer to save money, or to make the best and finest beverages you possibly can?
Cost shouldn't be an issue, Really.
The original poster was talking about the cost of the most mediocre and overpriced commercial soda syrup on the planet!! Anyway there seems to be NO acceptable substitute to common supermarket Dr. Pepper... my best results were with agave syrup and sour cherry syrup but that was a waste of money.
I wasn't saying that buying fancy ingredients was important, at all. Not at all.
What I was trying to say is that cost isn't why we got into homebrewing or soda-making in the first place.
It's about the taste. Fsck it if we can't make perfect clones.
I recall reading a quote from the head of the 7-up soda company about 30 years ago. Basically, he said he quit worrying about competitors getting the company formula for 7-up (it's available on line and has been in books for years): his attitude changed when he realized "Why would anybody want to make another '7-up'?"
What I was trying to say is that cost isn't why we got into homebrewing or soda-making in the first place.
It's about the taste. Fsck it if we can't make perfect clones.
I recall reading a quote from the head of the 7-up soda company about 30 years ago. Basically, he said he quit worrying about competitors getting the company formula for 7-up (it's available on line and has been in books for years): his attitude changed when he realized "Why would anybody want to make another '7-up'?"
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I am not a fan of Dr. Pepper because, to me, it tastes like a mushy brown cherry that has begun to rot. I did a Google search and discovered that there are a lot of knock offs that I never heard of before. See http://www.kibo.com/kibofood/dr_pepper.html . And, I found a knock off of a knock off flavoring here http://www.getsuckered.com/Product/Dr-Cola-(Pibb-Type)-Flavoring-(PG)__00B-DP-06635-PG.aspx . This product probably stinks, but, at least, it won't cost much to try it.
Regarding the cost of carbonation, my Primo Flavorstation uses 20 oz. CO2 tanks that are physically the same as those used for paintball. I get my tanks refilled for $3.50/tank at Sports Authority.
Regarding the cost of carbonation, my Primo Flavorstation uses 20 oz. CO2 tanks that are physically the same as those used for paintball. I get my tanks refilled for $3.50/tank at Sports Authority.
MrFoodScientist
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Funny this should see some more activity this week after 4 months of inactivity. Guess what popped up on the Quarry Press SPOON Blog today:
http://www.quarryspoon.com/2014/08/homemade-soda-mockter-pepper.html
I will admit, it's not a perfect match because I'm not much of a Pepper drinker, but IMHO, it's not bad. Kind of complicated, but not quite 23 flavors. And yes, I know that they've denied the use of prunes or prune juice, but that doesn't mean they're not using prune flavor. Just try it out and see.
http://www.quarryspoon.com/2014/08/homemade-soda-mockter-pepper.html
I will admit, it's not a perfect match because I'm not much of a Pepper drinker, but IMHO, it's not bad. Kind of complicated, but not quite 23 flavors. And yes, I know that they've denied the use of prunes or prune juice, but that doesn't mean they're not using prune flavor. Just try it out and see.
Mmmm. Dr. Pepper flavored laxative.
Why can I buy prune juice and grape juice but no plum juice nor raisin juice?
Prune is the name of a few types of plum. So prune juice comes from fresh prunes not dried prunes.
Your logic is wrong. See the list of ingredients here: http://www.rwknudsenfamily.com/products/organic-juices/organic-prune . More importantly, you should have noticed that bottled prune juice does not taste like fresh plums. Bottled prune juice has the oxidized flavor of air dried plums.
There is nothing on that Wiki web page that contradicts the fact that prune juice is made from dried prunes.
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While there are some plums that are considered "Prunes" in their fresh form, prune JUICE is made from rehydrated, dry plums (i.e. dried prunes).
http://theconscientiousomnivore.wordpress.com/2013/09/25/prune-juice/
http://theconscientiousomnivore.wordpress.com/2013/09/25/prune-juice/
Prunes and "dried plums" are the same thing. The only difference is that the prunes conjure up images of an old person straining on a toilet.
Prune juice and plum juice are two different things. Prune juice is made by stewing prunes and macerating the pulp (releases the laxative chemical), then filtering it. Plum juice is made by macerating fresh plums then filtering it.
However all of this is moot, since the company has said many times that prune is NOT one of the 23 flavors. http://www.snopes.com/business/secret/drpepper.asp
Prune juice and plum juice are two different things. Prune juice is made by stewing prunes and macerating the pulp (releases the laxative chemical), then filtering it. Plum juice is made by macerating fresh plums then filtering it.
However all of this is moot, since the company has said many times that prune is NOT one of the 23 flavors. http://www.snopes.com/business/secret/drpepper.asp
It is not moot because the objective is to duplicate the flavor of Dr. Pepper, not to duplicate Dr. Pepper's ingredients. Dr. Pepper has a flavor resembling oxidized, brown fruit such as air dried plums. If "prunes" were freeze dried in a vacuum, they would taste like fresh plums and we wouldn't be having this discussion because fresh plums do not taste like Dr. Pepper.
And, nobody has answered my question, "Why can't I buy the juice of fresh plums?" What? You wouldn't buy it?
It doesn't taste anything like prune either.
um, you can. Sunsweet PlumSmart, among others.
I heard that real Dr Pepper has unicorn horn shavings in it. Also leprechaun tears.
You're thinking "Mr. Pibb"
Pibb uses artificial unicorn shavings an bridge troll urine. I think that is the almost cherry note some people get.
Prune juice resembles Dr. Pepper to me, although not as much as a rotten brown cherry does. The common characteristic is the flavor of oxidized fruit therefore, maybe , raisin juice should work, almost as well. If you add a little bitter almond extract (benzaldehyde) to either prune or raisin juice, they will taste more like a rotten brown cherry or Dr. Pepper.
Thanks. I never noticed it on any supermarket shelf. I will look for it.
It sounded interesting to me too.I want to see what it does without any clarifiers first. I can do the unflavored gelatin thing if I need to. I've also got baking splenda on hand to back-sweeten, though that gets a little pricey. I'll probably back-sweeten with table sugar, and then bottle pasteurize immediately thereafter.
I did the second batch of the Dr. Pepper clone today. It was closer. Reduced the black cherry juice a great deal, and made the other changes to flavoring brands I talked about earlier. Recipe as follows:
1/2 cup black cherry juice. Just Black Cherry, R.W. Knudsen Family brand.
2 quarts filtered water. My tap water tastes bad, hence the filtered.
1 cup granulated sugar.
2 tbs molasses. Grandma's original, unsulphured.
1/4 tsp rum flavoring. Kroger imitation rum extract.
1/4 cup lemon juice. ReaLemon 100% juice.
2 tsp vanilla extract. I used really cheap imitation vanilla extract.
1/4 tsp almond extract. Great Value Pure Almond Extract.
It's still missing something. I'm fairly confident that what it is missing is kola.
The molasses flavor is still to strong, I'll cut the molasses down in the next batch.
I know this is an old thread but I adapted the recipe above into a flavor syrup with the following changes
I substituted tart cherry for black cherry juice because I had it on hand
upped the almond extract to 1 1/4 tsp McCormick Pure Almond Extract
and added:
1 oz amaretto Lazzaroni Amaretto
1/4 tsp bitter almond oil Lorann Oils this is probably close to 20 years old but it seems to be good still
Directions:
1. Mix first 6 ingredients in a heavy bottom saucepan and cook until mostly clear.
2. Add last 3 ingredients mix thoroughly
3. Enjoy at a 1:5 Syrup/Soda ratio (or to taste)
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