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Old 03-19-2008, 09:55 PM   #1
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I will be buying a house soon and I plan on transporting my brewery to my new basement when all is said and done and I plan on straying away from my stove to the comfy confines of a natural gas jet burner.

I found this place that sells such burners and I was eying the10 jet model, which seems reasonably priced: Top Food Service

They list the 10 burner model @ 75,000 BTU and I plan on brewing 3-10 gallon AG batches... Would this suit my needs or do should I go with the (lower priced!) 20 jet model which is listed @ 150,000 BTU?

Also, does anyone have any tips/pictures with such installations?

Just to keep things on topic, this will be professionally done, I will pull permits, the basement can be vented, I will have a CO meter in the brewery, fire extinguisher at the ready and a high pressure hose near by just in case.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:32 PM   #2
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odd that the higher BTU is cheaper...does the 10 jet appear to be fancy fancy?

either should work. a normal kitchen range is only about 8,000 BTU.
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looks like the higher priced model is American made while the 20 jet is made in China . I say this because there is one 20 jet burner that is 48.15 and the other is 21.35 and the fact the lower one states China while the other does not
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Old 03-20-2008, 03:12 AM   #4
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Well, you don't have to operate it at full bore, so a higher BTU unit would have more flexibility - but probably can't be turned quite as low as the 75000. They have an 8" (20 jet) for $26 and it doesn't say china on it.
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Old 03-20-2008, 03:32 AM   #5
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That's actually not true. I know it seems intuitive because your typical range is infinitely adjustable. Since these use venturi tips, they need a minimum velocity to pull air in for combustion. I have the 23 tip ones and needed to plug up 10 of the tips to make it right. You do get a certain range of adjustment, but it's like from medium high to high, no low. You'll be happy with the 10 or there's also the a 16 tip with cover for the same price.
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I used a 32 jet model hooked up to the natural gas grill stub at the back of the house. I bought about 16' of 3/8" flexible gas line designed for grill use in order to hook it up and place it where I wanted it. It brought 20 gallons of cold water to a very sustainable rolling boil in under 30 minutes.

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Hmmm, nice find on that link, Hoplobster!

My brother and I are working on a new single tier one barrel brewery, kinda brutus ten style, only using one barrel kegs that we have. So...We will be brewing 20-25 gals at a time.

So, It looks like that 32 jet big boy would be perfect for the brew kettle and the HLT maybe, but I am thinking a smaller one for the mashtun since it will be direct fired, and I don't wanna burn the mashing grains...

Whattaya think?

It will be circulating, but still...
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I just want to reiterate my warning. Even the 23 tip is HOT. With 10 of the 23 tips plugged up, I can boil over 11 gallons of wort in a 1/2bbl keggle with the flame on medium. I had to move the burner down lower away from the pot to keep it under control ;-)
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So, Bobby, you think that the 32 jet job is too big even for 20-25 gallons, eh?

I wonder how the pilot works on those ones with the cover? Might be nice to have a pilot built in to the burner, if 160K BTU would handle 20-25 gals.

Hmmmm....
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I think it might be borderline at that volume meaning you'd be happy with either 23 or 32 but the 32 is going to require a VERY adequate gas supply. If you think tapping off of a long 1/2" pipe run will do it, you'll be disappointed.

I've been OK with a single 23 tip running off a 30' run of 1/2" that's tapped into a 1" trunk but it's not so great trying to run two burners at the same time.

My plan is to go all the way back to the meter and pull 3/4" off the 1" line, take a 1/2" tap off that to the gas clothes drier nearby, then continue 3/4" all the way to the garage about 25 feet away. This will open up the flow but more importantly reduce how much flexible hose I have to use.

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