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Old 02-20-2012, 08:33 PM   #11
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There’s a reason Grandma’s made-from-scratch chocolate chip cookies tasted better than the slice-and-bake from the mega grocery store.

Plus there’s something more, I don’t know…brewery-authentic, about customizing a recipe then measuring, crushing and mashing malted barley in the same fashion the breweries do, instead of opening a can of syrup or bag of powder.


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Old 02-20-2012, 08:33 PM   #12
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Extract is a great way to learn the hobby and makes great beer. But, the malt character and fermentability will always be the same. With all grain, you have a bunch of different malts to choose from and you can really customize the wort profile.

Plus it's way cheaper.


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Old 02-20-2012, 09:03 PM   #13
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I think what the OP means about "custom" DME/LME is that they can mix it in custom blends, not cook it down in house, dehydrate it etc. At AHS for instance they have a lot of 55 gal drums with different extracts that the end up blending together as per recipe.

If they do in fact cook their own thats pretty stellar. Still can't be done on the fly per order though.

And to answer the question, its a matter of control when it comes down to it. Extracts/partials can win competitions (and have). For me I love the process of things and tweaking things here and there.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:09 PM   #14
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my guess is the OP is incorrect in saying that they can cook their own up, but if they did that for free, then there would really be no advantage to doing it yourself. you could tell them how fermentable you want it, could get any grain into an extract etc.

i've done all grain batches (BIAB) and extract. personally i see no reason to do just extract with steeping grains. if you are going to be steeping grains for a while, you might as well just mash some too.

DME is supposively much better than LME as well. i haven't really noticed too too much of a difference, but i have only used LME once or twice
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:16 PM   #15
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Cost can be a factor too. My last few batches have been running me around 0.25 a pint. I used to do extract and was making good beer, but I found with all grain I was really able to produce exactly what I wanted. I also found that the final products were a lot better once I refined my process after the first couple batches.

Its also not much extra effort when compared to extract. If you can read a thermometer and boil water you can make all grain beers. It does tack on an extra 60+ minutes to the brew day, but you do not need to babysit a mash like you do a boil. I usually go tackle some other tasks during the mash.
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I'm still new to brewing, and I'm just doing extract brewing at the moment..but why all grain? My friend said you get a higher yield from extract, and I can have my LHBS mill the speciality steeping grain and make a custom mix of different types of dme of exactly what I want at no extra cost.(EX 6 lbs wheat, 1 lb dark)

Is it it more fun, challenging, etc? Just looking for a reason to buy all grain equipment, I guess.

I believe the edits above reflect what the OP really meant?
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:56 PM   #17
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I wasn't incorrect, my LHBS makes their own LME and DME..

Thanks for the input everyone, the cost thing is huge...I didn't realize all grain was that much cheaper. Considering I just spent about 40 bucks on my last batch..it seemed like an expensive hobby. Definitely gonna jump into all grain in the next month or so.

Thanks guys!
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I can have my LHBS mill the grain and make a dme of exactly what I want at no extra cost.(EX 6 lbs wheat, 1 lb dark)
What kind of malt goes into 1 lb dark?
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What kind of malt goes into 1 lb dark?
Not a clue..
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I still highly doubt that the LHBS makes the DME. They'd have to have a lot of money invested in equipment to do that.


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