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Old 01-08-2012, 02:44 PM   #1
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There is a nanobrewery in el centro here that is selling clones on tap as there own. They have switched some little things out here and there in there recipes but the brewmaster claims they are basically clones. Is this more common than I think?

I understand this should be in probrewer but I am not a probrewer and cannot post there.

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Old 01-08-2012, 03:50 PM   #2
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well, if someone brews a DIPA and calls it pliny the elder that would be bad but if they brew a DIPA and call it something else with no intention of fooling the public, that is legit. are they trying to fool the public?

 
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:07 PM   #3
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It's completely legal unless they market it as a clone of something else.
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:23 PM   #4
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He is passing them off as his own. He renamed them and everything. I was asking if I could get a recipe from him and he told me they were just clones he got online. I dont think it is public knowledge unless you press him for the details.

 
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:28 PM   #5
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He is passing them off as his own. He renamed them and everything. I was asking if I could get a recipe from him and he told me they were just clones he got online. I dont think it is public knowledge unless you press him for the details.
he might not be welcomed into the circle of pro brewers but as long as he's not passing the beer off as the original he's ok. if you opened up a brewery chances are you would brew the same styles of beer already being brewed by other breweries. for an IPA you might use crystal 60 instead of crystal 40 or flaked barley instead of malted white wheat but it would still be an IPA. somebody might think it tastes the same as some other brand of IPA but what are you to do? sounds like the guy you are talking about is lazy but that's about all you can say about it.

 
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:30 PM   #6
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A recipe cannot be copyrighted as it is simply a list of ingredients, so unless he were trying to pass it off as the real deal, there is nothing illegal about what he is doing.
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:46 PM   #7
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He is passing them off as his own. He renamed them and everything. I was asking if I could get a recipe from him and he told me they were just clones he got online. I dont think it is public knowledge unless you press him for the details.
My thought is "So what?" He isn't making up the recipes, but I don't think that's a big deal. If he "clones" Fat Tire, and serves it as his amber ale, then I don't see anything wrong with that at all. I mean, it IS his own. He made it.
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:58 PM   #8
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No guarantee the clone recipe is the same as the original anyhow. There is going to be plenty of overlap in recipes given the number of brewers. So he looks up a recipe and modifies it a little. Lots of secrets in the business. How do you know he is telling YOU the truth of how he works?

 
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Old 01-08-2012, 05:11 PM   #9
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I don't think anyone would brag about cloning if they are a brewer selling there own brews. I just see people out there working hard to make a signature brew, only to have others take there hard work, clone it and call it there own. But I think it may happen more than I am aware of. I understand styles will be the same, but even style to style, beers taste different depending on ingredients used and process.

 
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Old 01-08-2012, 05:15 PM   #10
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Meh, just seems lazy. Defeats the whole point of becoming a brewmaster.
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