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Old 05-21-2009, 06:16 PM   #1
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Default A good read on hops and fertilizer use.

http://extension.oregonstate.edu/cat.../fg/fg79-e.pdf

Most useful if you get a soils test but, also has some good information regarding timing and plant useage of N.P,K.

Another intersting tidbit, I thought, was the suggestions of returning all the bines and leaves to the yard has a pretty notable impact on fertilization needs.

"Food" for thought.


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Another intersting tidbit, I thought, was the suggestions of returning all the bines and leaves to the yard has a pretty notable impact on fertilization needs.
The plant equivalent of cannibalism. "Nothing is better for thee than thee."


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The plant equivalent of cannibalism. "Nothing is better for thee than thee."
Yeah. The read suggests a LOT of nutrient gets tied up in the "dry matter". I guess I have just always shyed away from the idea given the propensity for these plants to take root from cuttings but, then again, that wouldn't be so bad now would it.

I guess this approach suggest that any maintenance trimmings are best just buried back into the soil. Easy enough. I had been struggling with cuttings propogating themselves in the compost pile causing a mixed risk if they weren't removed.

From now on, when I trim, I'll just hand dig a hole and drop the trimmings in.
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I also find the bits on Sulfur and Zinc of interest. Especially the zinc immitating viral tendencies. But, I have yet to find a consumer product for Zinc and non of the chemical fertilizers I use for other plants list Zinc values.
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But hold on!! If the cuttings take root too.....You could end up with too many hops!!!


Oh yes, I see now.
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So, if I planted my hops using garden soil and some cow manure, how long until I should use some commercial fertilizer, and what type would be good....

There about 5 feet tall now....First year.....

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Miracle Grow baby, works on everything!
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I also find the bits on Sulfur and Zinc of interest. Especially the zinc immitating viral tendencies. But, I have yet to find a consumer product for Zinc and non of the chemical fertilizers I use for other plants list Zinc values.
Zinc content is listed in some planted tank trace element fertilizers.
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Miracle Grow baby, works on everything!
First let me say I'm a believer in Miracle Grow and it's uses. But I have some thoughts/info that might be of use to others. I'll preface by saying all my horticultural knowledge comes from my father whom headed up our family run nursery for 17+ years.

1-MG is most effective when poured/sprayed onto the plants themselves. It has very limited staying power in the soil and is "fertilizer in solution" so it is absorbed through the greenery at very high rates when compared to root contact.
2-It is almost impossible to burn up a plant with MG. See #1 for reference.
3-MG can be used with regular granulated fertilizers.

I prefer to go about 6" outside of the root structure of the hops with a double handfull of 8-8-8 or 13-13-13 after the plants are established in the spring/early summer. In practical terms this means I simply put fertilizer all the way around the base of my hops in a 15-24" diameter circle, carefully working it into the soil. After a week or 10 days has passed I resume Miracle Grow application every 6-11 days.

Just my .02

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Miracle Grow baby, works on everything!
First let me say I'm a believer in Miracle Grow and it's uses. But I have some thoughts/info that might be of use to others. I'll preface by saying all my horticultural knowledge comes from my father whom headed up our family run nursery for 17+ years.

1-MG is most effective when poured/sprayed onto the plants themselves. It has very limited staying power in the soil and is "fertilizer in solution" so it is absorbed through the greenery at very high rates when compared to root contact.
2-It is almost impossible to burn up a plant with MG. See #1 for reference.
3-MG can be used with regular granulated fertilizers.

I prefer to go about 6" outside of the root structure of the hops with a double handfull of 8-8-8 or 13-13-13 after the plants are established in the spring/early summer. In practical terms this means I simply put fertilizer all the way around the base of my hops in a 15-24" diameter circle, carefully working it into the soil. After a week or 10 days has passed I resume Miracle Grow application every 6-11 days.

Just my .02

Schlante,
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