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Here is a recipe that seems to be pretty good for this beer, I saved it from OhioDads post and I believe he got it from BYO. A few questions however, I have seen some recipes that call for 1) yeast nutrient 2) corn syrup, should they be in there?
Anyone have success with this?

Dragon's Milk
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 3/15/2008
Style: Old Ale Brewer: OhioDad
Batch Size: 5.00 gal Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 6.41 gal Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 % Equipment: Brew Pot (7.5 gal) and Igloo Cooler (10 Gal)

Taste Rating (50 possible points): 35.0
New Holland Dragon's Milk Clone

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
12.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 78.02 %
1.50 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 9.75 %
0.63 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 4.10 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 3.25 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 3.25 %
0.25 lb White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 1.63 %
0.75 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 29.9 IBU
0.25 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (10 min) Hops 2.2 IBU
2.00 oz Oak Chips (Secondary 14.0 days) Misc
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [Starter 125 ml] Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.083 SG (1.060-1.100 SG) Estimated Final Gravity: 1.019 SG (1.015-1.025 SG)
Estimated Color: 28.0 SRM (10.0-25.0 SRM) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 32.1 IBU (30.0-65.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 10.5 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 8.29 % (6.00-10.00 %)

Mash Profile Name: Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge Mash Tun Weight: 9.00 lb
Mash Grain Weight: 15.38 lb Mash PH: 5.4 PH
Grain Temperature: 72.0 F Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F
Sparge Water: 3.26 gal Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE

Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Mash In Add 21.00 qt of water at 169.5 F 158.0 F 60 min


Mash Notes
Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
Carbonation and Storage Carbonation Type: Corn Sugar Carbonation Volumes: 2.4 (1.8-2.5 vols)
Estimated Priming Weight: 3.8 oz Temperature at Bottling: 60.0 F
Primer Used: - Age for: 4.0 Weeks
Storage Temperature: 52.0 F


Notes
Soak oak in 2oz bourbon overnight. Add 2oz Jim Beam at bottling time.
 
This is direct from www.newhollandbrewing.com

Dragon's Milk - Ale Aged In Oak Barrels
The beer you hold in your hand, Dragon’s Milk Ale, is a crown jewel of New Holland Brewing Company. It is the unrivaled result of painstaking processes - both creative and scientific.

We could tell you about the centuries-old tradition of the term, Dragon's Milk, or we could tell you about the history, craftsmanship and challenges of important, the beer inside this bottle.

Expect a complex ale with a soft, rich caramel-malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones; all dancing in an oak bath. Unmistakably distinctive example of New Holland’s Art in Fermented Form.

19° Plato, Alc. 8.5% by Vol.

Available in:
Pub Draught • 22 oz • Growler • Half Barrel • Sixth Barrel

See Dragon's Milk - Ale Aged In Oak Barrels in the Brewer's Kitchen
 
I know this post was from 2008, I am planning on giving the recipie a try, would you have any notes or updates you would recomend?
Thanks! Hooligan

Dragon's Milk - Here is a recipe that seems to be pretty good for this beer, I saved it from OhioDads post and I believe he got it from BYO. A few questions however, I have seen some recipes that call for 1) yeast nutrient 2) corn syrup, should they be in there?
Anyone have success with this?

Dragon's Milk
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 3/15/2008
Style: Old Ale Brewer: OhioDad
Batch Size: 5.00 gal Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 6.41 gal Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 % Equipment: Brew Pot (7.5 gal) and Igloo Cooler (10 Gal)

Taste Rating (50 possible points): 35.0
New Holland Dragon's Milk Clone

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
12.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 78.02 %
1.50 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 9.75 %
0.63 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 4.10 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 3.25 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 3.25 %
0.25 lb White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 1.63 %
0.75 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 29.9 IBU
0.25 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (10 min) Hops 2.2 IBU
2.00 oz Oak Chips (Secondary 14.0 days) Misc
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [Starter 125 ml] Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.083 SG (1.060-1.100 SG) Estimated Final Gravity: 1.019 SG (1.015-1.025 SG)
Estimated Color: 28.0 SRM (10.0-25.0 SRM) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 32.1 IBU (30.0-65.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 10.5 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 8.29 % (6.00-10.00 %)

Mash Profile Name: Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge Mash Tun Weight: 9.00 lb
Mash Grain Weight: 15.38 lb Mash PH: 5.4 PH
Grain Temperature: 72.0 F Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F
Sparge Water: 3.26 gal Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE

Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Mash In Add 21.00 qt of water at 169.5 F 158.0 F 60 min


Mash Notes
Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
Carbonation and Storage Carbonation Type: Corn Sugar Carbonation Volumes: 2.4 (1.8-2.5 vols)
Estimated Priming Weight: 3.8 oz Temperature at Bottling: 60.0 F
Primer Used: - Age for: 4.0 Weeks
Storage Temperature: 52.0 F


Notes
Soak oak in 2oz bourbon overnight. Add 2oz Jim Beam at bottling time.
 
I know this post was from 2008, I am planning on giving the recipie a try, would you have any notes or updates you would recomend?
Thanks! Hooligan

Dragon's Milk - Here is a recipe that seems to be pretty good for this beer, I saved it from OhioDads post and I believe he got it from BYO. A few questions however, I have seen some recipes that call for 1) yeast nutrient 2) corn syrup, should they be in there?
Anyone have success with this?

Dragon's Milk
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 3/15/2008
Style: Old Ale Brewer: OhioDad
Batch Size: 5.00 gal Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 6.41 gal Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 % Equipment: Brew Pot (7.5 gal) and Igloo Cooler (10 Gal)

Taste Rating (50 possible points): 35.0
New Holland Dragon's Milk Clone

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
12.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 78.02 %
1.50 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 9.75 %
0.63 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 4.10 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 3.25 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 3.25 %
0.25 lb White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 1.63 %
0.75 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 29.9 IBU
0.25 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (10 min) Hops 2.2 IBU
2.00 oz Oak Chips (Secondary 14.0 days) Misc
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [Starter 125 ml] Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.083 SG (1.060-1.100 SG) Estimated Final Gravity: 1.019 SG (1.015-1.025 SG)
Estimated Color: 28.0 SRM (10.0-25.0 SRM) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 32.1 IBU (30.0-65.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 10.5 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 8.29 % (6.00-10.00 %)

Mash Profile Name: Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge Mash Tun Weight: 9.00 lb
Mash Grain Weight: 15.38 lb Mash PH: 5.4 PH
Grain Temperature: 72.0 F Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F
Sparge Water: 3.26 gal Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE

Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Mash In Add 21.00 qt of water at 169.5 F 158.0 F 60 min


Mash Notes
Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
Carbonation and Storage Carbonation Type: Corn Sugar Carbonation Volumes: 2.4 (1.8-2.5 vols)
Estimated Priming Weight: 3.8 oz Temperature at Bottling: 60.0 F
Primer Used: - Age for: 4.0 Weeks
Storage Temperature: 52.0 F


Notes
Soak oak in 2oz bourbon overnight. Add 2oz Jim Beam at bottling time.

I was wondering if you brewed this yet because I brewed the same recipe on the 6th but it was also my first all-grain attempt and my starting gravity missed the mark. Gonna rack to secondary next week with Mexican Vanilla extract, and bourbon soaked oak chips.

Here is what I did: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/first-big-beer-first-5g-all-grain-305087/
 
XxBeer-ThirtyxX said:
I was wondering if you brewed this yet because I brewed the same recipe on the 6th but it was also my first all-grain attempt and my starting gravity missed the mark. Gonna rack to secondary next week with Mexican Vanilla extract, and bourbon soaked oak chips.

Here is what I did: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/first-big-beer-first-5g-all-grain-305087/

I did ohiodads' recipe a couple years ago and it was pretty close to the real deal. I left it on the oak for about 3-4 weeks I think.

If using Mexican vanilla extract, make sure it is pure vanilla and not vanillin
 
I was wondering if you brewed this yet because I brewed the same recipe on the 6th but it was also my first all-grain attempt and my starting gravity missed the mark. Gonna rack to secondary next week with Mexican Vanilla extract, and bourbon soaked oak chips.

Here is what I did: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/first-big-beer-first-5g-all-grain-305087/

Just out of curiosity how much Vanilla extract did you use for the batch? also interested on why you would add it at secondary instead of bottling? Thanks!
 
Here's a link to the SPEC sheet from the New Holland brewery. It lists the malts and that they aged it for 90 days in bourbon barrels. They also said they added some beet sugar, so I wouldn't think it would be too bad to add corn syrup. Maybe a bit more than is called for in this recipe, or maybe some Belgian candi sugar.
 
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