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iswenson

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Hello,

I have a question about the smack pack type yeast.

Does everbody wait the full 3 hours. It says you can also directly pitch into the wort so im wondering if I need to wait 3 hours after 'smacking' to pitch.

Also, if I have aerated/oxegenated the wort, do I mix the wort/yeast mixture after pitching. If so do I wait for some period before mixing...do I mix vigorously?

Thanks
 
You can pitch directly without smacking. The inner nutrient pack is more of a way to "proof" the yeast than anything. If you have the 3 hours, it doesn't hurt though.

After you oxygenate, there is no need to mix the yeast in.
 
Actually with liquid yeast for any beer with a starting gravity over 1.020 (just about every recipe) you should be making a starter. THere are really not enough cells in a smack pack to do the job, even for most normal beers.

if you look at the yeast pitching calculator at http://www.mrmalty.com/calc/calc.html that really you should make a starter with any liquid yeast above a 1.020 starting gravity.

Making a starter first insures that your yeast is still alive and viable before you dump it in your beer. You will be less likely to start one of those "is my yeast dead?" threads that are on here every day.

You will also ensure that you have enough yeast usually the tubes and smack packs are a lot less yeast that you really should use for healthy fermentation.

Making a starter also usually means your beer will take off sooner, because the first thing that the little buggers do in the presence of wort (whether in a flask or in a fermenter) is have an orgy to reproduce enough cells to do the job...So it won't take such a long time in the fermenter since they started doing it in the flask.

Additionally it is better for the yeast to consume and reproduce incrementally rather than just dumping them into the fermenter...The yeast will be less stressed out than if you just dump them in.

Stressed out yeast can lead to a lot of off flavors...maybe even (though rare) the dreaded autolysis....Or the curse of 1.030....getting a stuck fermentation because the yeast have bit the dust.

So making a starter proves your yeast is still healthy, allows you to grow enough yeast to do the job, cuts down on lag time, and ensures that you will not get off flavors or stuck ferementations from stressed out yeast.

You don't need to wait till your smack pack expands to make a starter though.
 
Is opening the nutrient package (smacking and letting sit for a period of time) equivalent to making a starter? Or are you suggesting to take some of the wort that the yeast will be devouring out early and mixing it with the contents of the smack pack?

thanks
 
Is opening the nutrient package (smacking and letting sit for a period of time) equivalent to making a starter? Or are you suggesting to take some of the wort that the yeast will be devouring out early and mixing it with the contents of the smack pack?

thanks


No, it's not the same as making a starter.....there is just a little nutrient in there to wake them up from dormancy, nothing like a volume of wort to get them reproducing.
 
Ho much wort should I add to a starter, and how long should I let it 'marinate' until I can definitively say I have good yeast and pitch?
 
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