The only OTHER ingredients called for with these kits is 1) sugar, 2) water, and 3) yeast!
True, Dave R, tried a batch without the sugar, and doubling the LME, and didn't like it, but I'm gonna have to try it and see for myself.
These kits are so cheap that I feel the need to do some major experimenting and playing around before moving on to bigger and better projects.
If y'all lived in a dry county, surrounded by dry counties, you would probably feel more like I do about wanting to apply some extra effort, and attempt to massage these kits for optimum results!
Pogo
Who is saying that you can't play around with them or massage them for optimum results? I think you got the whole tone of that post incorrect... I agree, play around with it and try it out! I know I did.. That post was simply a message to my brother (who lives in another town- I guess I should have clarified that) about my own personal experiences with premier.. But by all means, experiment.. Everyones tastes are different.. Good luck and happy brewing