To all the "I think you hit the nail on the head" explainers:
You think that just because a show is about beer, that all of us are supposed to like it? This series is a big fluff monster on a roller coaster. I'd just rather shut off the TV and go do some work in the garage. I'm not much of a TV watcher, and sorry, but this show failed to capture my attention.
I had only one expectation of the series. It has to do with the fact that the title is in the plural form, BrewMasters, as in, more than just one.
I didn't know who the hec SC is, not a groopie, and don't drink DFH beer. It's too expensive. I like Miles Davis. I enjoyed the tour of his brewery. But like many shows on cable these days, I don't respond well to the pretentiousness and "choreographed spontaneity." Hec, the guy drives a "rusty truck" that has most definitely been modified to preserve "the look." I felt like someone is bull****ting me. And I don't like that. The heavy dose of the whole wacky and zany glitz turned me off too.
I'm happy that Sam is a successful man, with a nice brewery, loyal employees, and his very own TV show. This is all very nice. I'm happy for him, and most definitely do not feel any hatred toward the man.
But the whole style and format is not for me. Like I said, I am not much of a TV watcher. I held on until the very end when the kicker came in. Next week we get more Sam. So, this is not going to be about brewmasters, as in plural? Just Sam?
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Just a quick question: did the idea, effort, and execution of creating a beer the way they did not interest you? Because I feel like that was what the show was really about.
And lastly, isn't it possible that you weren't being "bull****ted." That Sam is really just that silly on a daily basis?
You are correct. It did interest me. It's just that I'm not big on watching TV, and I could get that sort of inspiration and information elsewhere without having to sit through the "entertainment." It's just not my bag.
Could be you are correct again. This could just be the real Sam.
I thought the show was OK. Good premise and I don't mind the "dumbing down" aspect so much. I think what I really disliked was Sam doing the narration. His narration is just... off. It sounds too much like he's reading straight from a scrip, which, when you have no acting ability, sounds really bad.
And um, have you ever, uh, tried to do a voiceover recording, um, without a script? No? STFU.
To all the "I think you hit the nail on the head" explainers:
You think that just because a show is about beer, that all of us are supposed to like it? This series is a big fluff monster on a roller coaster. I'd just rather shut off the TV and go do some work in the garage. I'm not much of a TV watcher, and sorry, but this show failed to capture my attention.
I had only one expectation of the series. It has to do with the fact that the title is in the plural form, BrewMasters, as in, more than just one.
I didn't know who the hec SC is, not a groopie, and don't drink DFH beer. It's too expensive. I like Miles Davis. I enjoyed the tour of his brewery. But like many shows on cable these days, I don't respond well to the pretentiousness and "choreographed spontaneity." Hec, the guy drives a "rusty truck" that has most definitely been modified to preserve "the look." I felt like someone is bull****ting me. And I don't like that. The heavy dose of the whole wacky and zany glitz turned me off too.
I'm happy that Sam is a successful man, with a nice brewery, loyal employees, and his very own TV show. This is all very nice. I'm happy for him, and most definitely do not feel any hatred toward the man.
But the whole style and format is not for me. Like I said, I am not much of a TV watcher. I held on until the very end when the kicker came in. Next week we get more Sam. So, this is not going to be about brewmasters, as in plural? Just Sam?
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His narration was a billion times better than this jackhole's...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH3k-e6440g
And um, have you ever, uh, tried to do a voiceover recording, um, without a script? No? STFU.
I don't understand why people are complaining so much.
mentioned..."I think you hit the nail on the head" explainers:
I think all three of you hit the nail on the head. On the internets bashing is the norm. No matter how good something may be, there's bound to be a few nay sayers, and I think a lot of it IS jealousy.
great, then dont watch it..
because, as we mentioned...
some people just like to stir the pot.
I totally agree with revvy here:
cf. "jealousy"
EDIT: P.S.... "explainers," really?
I keep trying to convince myself not to even get involved in this discussion...but alas....
I don't understand the hate.
There's always hate. It's part of the human condition. Today would be a good day to try to ignore it
I think all three of you hit the nail on the head. On the internets bashing is the norm. No matter how good something may be, there's bound to be a few nay sayers, and I think a lot of it IS jealousy.
Hell look at what started to be a really nice thread about Jim Koch, and an amazing piece of customer service, imho.
Interesting, Jim Koch made a video to answer my question on facebook and at least one person has to come on and piss in the swimming pool.
I mean my god, some folks actually think something that we worship like beers actually merits getting it's own tv show? And it actually gets any intelligent coverage, let alone a 10 weeks show devoted to it, and folks gotta hate on it. We should be celebrating, this is really the first time beer has been taken somewhat seriously on national tv. It's going to do, like Bobby said, and TON of good PR for the craft brew industry (you don't think a bunch of BMC drinkers are going to be hunting down bitches brew whether they may end up liking it or not?) For every 10 or 50 bud light drinkers who try one of these beers, I bet we have at least 1-2 who decide to broaden their horizons. And we may even get a few homebrewers out of the mix. I don't think that's bad at all.
just watched the show last night (dvr'd it). thought it was pretty good. didn't really care for the hip hop parts but all in all thought it was pretty good. the previews for the next episode looked interesting with the "spit" beer. think I would pass on that brew :cross:
I keep trying to convince myself not to even get involved in this discussion...but alas....
I don't understand the hate. I just really don't. Sam does what he loves for a living and seems to be a genuine, fun guy. His "pain relievaz" schtick was most likely tossed into the show because discovery thought it would keep the show more light hearted and mask the obvious intent of Sony being there....to advertise the new release of Miles Davis' album. No big deal. Sam's been making those albums for fun for years, it's nothing new. He's been having fun doing it and will continue to do it.
You don't like DFH beers? There are a lot of people who DO like them. If I say that I don't like a Geueze are you going to tar and feather me? What if I don't like IPAs? Everyone has a different palate so just because you don't like something doesn't mean that it's no good. If it tastes good, who cares about what the traditional recipe would call for. Does the BJCP need to oversee each recipe to make sure that all of the elements fit to style?
"But...but...but....his beers are underattenuated! They're overspiced! He doesn't brew the way that I want him to!" GET OVER YOURSELF! DFH is making beers the way that Sam and his team WANT to. Do you really think that they can't hit the exact gravities that they want? Do you really think that they don't KNOW all about hop isomerization and what happens when you add hops at a certain time in the boil? Give me a freaking break. Sam made beers that he, and other people, liked and made a career out of it. Don't like it? DON'T DRINK IT. (and don't go whining about it on a forum either...)
All in all the show was pretty much what I expected it to be: light and enjoyable with the slightest bit of technical talk thrown in. There's no need to touch on the technical topic because that horse has already been beaten to death a thousand times in this thread.
There's always hate. It's part of the human condition. Today would be a good day to try to ignore it
I don't understand the hate. I just really don't.
Pretty good show ... a few inaccurate statements regarding beer history. however apart from that I thought it was a fun show.
Hope there are visits to many breweries and not just those in the US ...
I have an actual question about the show.
How is it that they can take a batch from brewing to bottle in only three weeks? I think that is what they said anyway, I may have misunderstood.
I have an actual question about the show.
How is it that they can take a batch from brewing to bottle in only three weeks? I think that is what they said anyway, I may have misunderstood.
I never suggested that anyone should not watch the show, that it shouldn't be on the air, or that it "sucked."
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