Intro
I have come around to HB_99s point of view re: late *ME adition. As a beginner I put all my extract in at the beginning, than I moved to adding the extract wtih 15 minutes left, now I am adding *ME at flameout. So I gotta redo my hop U calcs, since the (15) and (5) hops will be in before rather than after the *ME.
If you want to make this fine PM/steep recipe and add your *ME with 15 minutes left in the boil, go read this post:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showpost.php?p=432568&postcount=120
Background
I really like this PM recipe. I gave lots of it away over Christmas with varying amounts of hops to see what my friends do and don't like. My current grain bill is 2# Vienna + 0.5# Crystal 10L. Steep at mash temps (150-155°F) for 60 minutes. Sparge out to three gallon boil, 6.6-7.0# light LME at flameout, locked under Nottingham Yellow two to three weeks.
Hops I have been playing with. I do my U calcs with a pencil. I like the Tensith just cause it makes more sense to me than the other methods available.
I use the table on realbeer:
http://realbeer.com/hops/FAQ.html#units
Tensith for the AG version
Per EdWort's original recipe on page one post one this thread, using I think it was 6.6% Cascades, on the Tensith table he is getting:
20.8 IBUs (60)
7.9 IBUs (30)
2.6 IBUs (13)
1.4 IBUs (5)
Total 32.7 IBUs to the fermenter - ass/u/me constant 5.5 gallon boil at 1.050.
Tensith for the PM brewer with LME at flameout to match AG hopU
If your mini-mash gives you 3.0 gallons of 1.030:
5.43 HBU (60)
2.68 HBU (30)
1.37 HBU (15)
1.56 HBU (5)
If your mini-mash gives you 3.0 gallons of 1.040:
5.95 HBU (60)
2.93 HBU (30)
1.50 HBU (15)
1.70 HBU (5)
Should put you at 32-33 IBUs in the fermenter. Note the amounts above are in HBUs, so you can use whatever hops and a scale. In practice I round up to the next tenth of an ounce...
So I made it and I liked it and a lot of friend's liked it too. It is a very quaffable brew. But I wanted more. So I stepped up the hops a couple times.
I made one batch using the same 13.2HBUs for the AG version, only with late LME, and I liked that. If you like IPAs, feel free to make this with *ME at flameout while following the AG hopping schedule, HBU for HBU. Bittering, flavor and aroma should stay in nice balance, esp if you maintain your kettle volume. If you don't maintain your kettle voume, your U will slip as the gravity in your kettle increases, so you end up losing hop flavor. Cheaper to add water to maintain volume...less math too-> and the balance EdWort has given us is really really good.
Poindexter's F-W Pale hopU clone
I will probably someday make this recipe again. I used Saaz and Hallertau for (60) and (30), with Chinook for (15) and (5). Corrected for LME at flameout, this schedule should yield ~ 54.5 Tensith IBUs on a 1.035 boil held at 3.0 gallons -> but diluted out to 5.0 gallons at the fermenter, not 5.5.
7.25 HBU (60)
6.40 HBU (30)
2.50 HBU (15)
2.12 HBU (5)
First Wort Hop
For my next batch I am going to lift the hops from Biermuncher's FWH IPA recipe onto this grain bill. I just lifted it HBU for HBU. I am mashing low to run my fermentable OG up a little bit (dough in at 152).
For the FWH I am using:
6.0 HBU Willamette
3.9 HBU Amarillo
2.6 HBU Fuggles
1.8 HBU Hallertau
And I added a man pinch of Amarillo to the mash tun because of the yellow dots in the bottom of the bag.
For (1):
3.9 HBU Amarillo (+ 1 man pinch)
1.8 HBU Hallertau
2.6 HBU Fuggles
