DunkelWeizen Grain Bill Help

Here's what i got:

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 7.50 gal
Boil Size: 10.34 gal
Estimated OG: 1.059 SG
Estimated Color: 16.6 SRM
Estimated IBU: 18.8 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
7 lbs Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 41.18 %
7 lbs Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 41.18 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 8.82 %
1 lbs Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 5.88 %
8.0 oz Chocolate, Pale (225.0 SRM) Grain 2.94 %
1.50 oz Mt. Hood [5.20 %] (60 min) Hops 18.8 IBU
1 Pkgs Hefeweizen Ale (White Labs #WLP300)

Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 17.00 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge, No Mash Out
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 5.31 gal of water at 170.1 F 154.0 F

I dont know, but i think i have too much munich. Do you guys think it will be overly malty? If so, should i sub it for Pilsner? Vienna? 2 Row?

Any other suggestions.

Bump. So does no one think this will be a malt-bomb?

A 50/50 split of munich and wheat is about perfect in my opinion. I would drop the aromatic and biscuit entirely and reduce the chocolate to just enough to get the colour you want, you don't really want any roasty flavours.

bradsul said:

A 50/50 split of munich and wheat is about perfect in my opinion. I would drop the aromatic and biscuit entirely and reduce the chocolate to just enough to get the colour you want, you don't really want any roasty flavours.

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That's essentially what I was thinking as well.

Cool, Here's the revision:

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 7.50 gal
Boil Size: 10.34 gal
Estimated OG: 1.060 SG
Estimated Color: 18.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 18.8 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
8.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 47.76 %
8.00 lb Wheat, Red (6.4 SRM) Grain 47.76 %
0.75 lb Chocolate, Pale (225.0 SRM) Grain 4.48 %
1.50 oz Mt. Hood [5.20 %] (60 min) Hops 18.8 IBU
1.50 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Hefeweizen Ale (White Labs #WLP300) [StartYeast-Wheat


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 16.75 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge, No Mash Out
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 5.23 gal of water at 170.1 F 154.0 F

I'd be using Hallertauer if it wasn't 1.8% at AHS

You brought the chocolate up when you need to bring it down. You should probably be shooting for around a quarter pound or so - you also may want to scrap chocolate entirely and use Carafa dehusked II. It will give color without roastiness.

I would also maybe add some Caramunich or such for some additional depth.

PseudoChef said:

You brought the chocolate up when you need to bring it down. You should probably be shooting for around a quarter pound or so - you also may want to scrap chocolate entirely and use Carafa dehusked II. It will give color without roastiness.

I would also maybe add some Caramunich or such for some additional depth.

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You're right! I took out the chocolate and put in .25 lb of Carafa dehusked III. I also went from WLP300 to WLP380, just because. :rockin:

Batch Size: 7.50 gal
Boil Size: 10.34 gal
Estimated OG: 1.058 SG
Estimated Color: 18.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 18.8 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
8.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 47.76 %
8.00 lb Wheat, Red (6.4 SRM) Grain 47.76 %
0.25 lb Carafa Dehusked III (470.0 SRM) Grain 4.48 %
1.50 oz Mt. Hood [5.20 %] (60 min) Hops 18.8 IBU
1.50 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Hefeweizen Ale IV (White Labs #WLP380) [StartYeast-Wheat

Looks great! I'd drink it!

Sounds good. I used the 380 on my Dunkel as I abhor bananas. Worked really well, IMO...although I've never used 300/3086.

all those recipes look pretty good IMO, although 1 lb of aromatic would be out of control. 380 is my preference with dunkelweizens. hefeweizens use 300 for the banana.