damdaman
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I see double reds, double and triple IPAs, etc. What specifically makes these styles different? Higher original gravity? Then why not just call it an Imperial? Confused...
I see double reds, double and triple IPAs, etc. What specifically makes these styles different? Higher original gravity? Then why not just call it an Imperial? Confused...
Well, the would "double" in that sense came from the Imperial India Pale Ale, or IIPA, with the double 'I' making that term stick. The Belgians also used the terms dubbel and tripel (and much later quad) as a benchmark indicating strength.
Well, the would "double" in that sense came from the Imperial India Pale Ale, or IIPA, with the double 'I' making that term stick. The Belgians also used the terms dubbel and tripel (and much later quad) as a benchmark indicating strength.
I'm waiting for an Imperial Miller Light.
I think that's like multiplying by zero, water doubled is still water......
I'm waiting for an Imperial Miller Light.
I think that's like multiplying by zero, water doubled is still water......
It past due that marketers step out of the box and get really creative with these names.
Russian Commodious Stout
Prodigious Porter
Double Voluminous Pale Ale
Capacious Wit
I'm waiting for an Imperial Miller Light.
Playing devils advocate here...
I've heard folks reference a difference between a "Double IPA" and an "Imperial IPA". Not saying I agree with a difference, but some folks think its there. Something along the lines of a moderate increase in malt and strength with outrageous hop increases for a DIPA, with a much lager malt increases and balanced hop increases. Basically IPA- bitter, DIPA- slightly stronger even more bitter, IIPA- a lot stronger but the same relative bitterness as a regular IPA.
I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like splitting hairs to me. Call it whatever you want to call it
ReverseApacheMaster said:I'm waiting for an Imperial Miller Light.
How many people on here do you think get that you have a skinhead title?
BTW, I just want to clarify for those reading this that are unaware of skinhead culture. Most skinheads are not racist...
The stronger beers were reserved for the nobility, and they were called "Imperial". For example, Russian Imperial Stout was exported to the russian court.
While making and India Pale Ale stronger, it became an Imperial India Pale Ale, or IIPA. The name was shortened to Double IPA.
Since it was stronger, people started using the term "Double" to imply a stronger beer. Not be outdone, others started using triple to indicate and even more extreme beer!
And this is not related to the Dubbel and Trippel beers, which are different.
It's all a means to the same marketing schema. Make a higher gravity product and give it a kitchy name so it will be marketable.
the mere necessity for everything to be Imperialized these days is rediculous.
But with the vast majority of IIPAs... I WANT to like them, but, if I'm being honest with myself, I really can't. And yet they are so wildly successful and coveted, that I really can't help but wonder if most of the people paying top dollar for such unpleasant swill are actually being honest with THEMSELVES.
On a totally different note though, there's really no merit to the idea that hoppy beers are particularly teeth-rotting/enamel-eroding, yet even some of the most knowledgeable brewers are constantly referring to the notion as fact.
I like IPAs. Don't think I ever had a double. I'm thinking of brewing up a clone of Green Flash soon. I had some at a great bar in San Diego last spring. It was suggested by a very cute little bartender so I tried it. Haven't been able to get it out of my mind ever since. I don't think I'm a Neanderthall but I guess I could be wrong. I do say Ook Ook Ook a lot.
I'm convinced most of the IIPA disciples are, at core, a bunch of tin-tongued charlatans who would happily beat their chests and Ook Ook Ook about some other Big Butch Manly Thing if they didn't have IIPA. Motorcycles or guns or some such drivel. They're drinking the beer not at all for the sensory input; they're drinking it for the status they believe is accorded to someone who drinks it. "It's twice the strength, five times the hops and twice the price! I am a Real Man! Look at me! Ook! I have a shiny red bottom! Ook!"
Whatevs.
Bob
How many people on here do you think get that you have a skinhead title?
BTW, I just want to clarify for those reading this that are unaware of skinhead culture. Most skinheads are not racist...
I'm convinced most of the IIPA disciples are, at core, a bunch of tin-tongued charlatans who would happily beat their chests and Ook Ook Ook about some other Big Butch Manly Thing if they didn't have IIPA. Motorcycles or guns or some such drivel. They're drinking the beer not at all for the sensory input; they're drinking it for the status they believe is accorded to someone who drinks it. "It's twice the strength, five times the hops and twice the price! I am a Real Man! Look at me! Ook! I have a shiny red bottom! Ook!
Please note, if you actually like that stuff for some reason, more power to you. Don't be a ******-canoe about it and we'll get along fine!
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