Trying to formulate a Yazoo Dos Perros Clone Recipe

I would appreciate your feedback. One of our treasured local breweries is Yazoo. They have a great American Amber called Dos Perros. Searched everywhere for a clone recipe and couldn't find it. I did link their website, though, which gives ingredients, IBUs, etc. http://www.yazoobrew.com/our-beers/index.php

I tried to put together a PM version of the recipe. This is my first attempt at putting one together from scratch. I would appreciate any comments/suggestions you may have. Thanks!


BeerSmith Recipe Printout
Recipe: Dos Perros Clone
Brewer: Timber Cove Brewing
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Amber Ale
TYPE: Partial Mash


Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 4.08 gal
Estimated OG: 1.039 SG
Estimated Color: 15.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 28.8 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
2.50 lb Pale Liquid Extract [Boil for 15 min] Extract 38.11 %
1.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 22.87 %
1.00 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 15.24 %
0.75 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM) Grain 11.43 %
0.50 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 7.62 %
0.31 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 4.73 %
0.50 oz Pearle [8.00 %] (60 min) Hops 14.0 IBU
0.50 oz Pearle [8.00 %] (30 min) Hops 10.8 IBU
1.00 oz Saaz [4.00 %] (10 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
0.50 tsp Gelatin (Secondary 5.0 days) Misc
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule:
Total Grain Weight: 4.06 lb
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PM Mash
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Step Add 5.60 qt of water at 171.2 F 158.0 F

So I've settled on the above after much tinkering with Beersmith. I guess if not for the Flaked Maize I could do this as extract with steeping grains (the Carapils, Munich, and Chocolate malts). Could I sub corn syrup for the flaked maize? I think Yazoo claims to use the maize to calm the maltiness a bit. Would the syrup do the same? Thanks for any feedback.

I took the tour at Yazoo and they seemed open and friendly. Maybe you could just take the tour and while wandering around ask for a homebrew sized recipe?

I e-mailed Linus, the owner, and this is what he told me.

70% pale
18% munich
10% corn
2% chocolate malt

perle and saaz hops

english ale yeast

Now I need to figure out how to make this extract.

Linus is a good guy, huh? I've seen him now and again in their tap room and he's always open with info. THanks for the follow-up.

I ended up attempting to make this a few months ago. It was only my 3rd batch and first partial mash and it didn't go well. I let it bottle condition for 6 weeks and it was still just bad. Ended up dumping it after two months. I'm planning to try it again and will tweak the percentages to match what you got from Linus. I know I used Carafa II instead of Choc. malt and I didn't use english ale yeast. Look forward to trying it again.

This is an older thread, but here is what I worked out after touring the brewery and talking with Linus and company. I quite liked the result, and only have one bottle left. Resized to 5 gallon:


Dos Perros - All Grain - 5 gallon

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.00 gal

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
0.10 lb Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 1.30 %
4.49 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 58.51 %
2.49 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 32.51 %
0.36 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM) Grain 4.73 %
0.23 lb Carafa II (412.0 SRM) Grain 2.96 %
0.84 oz Pearle [5.40 %] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 19.4 IBU
0.42 oz Saaz [4.90 %] (5 min) Hops 1.6 IBU
English Ale Yeast

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.041 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 3.94 %
Bitterness: 21.0 IBU
Est Color: 13.9 SRM

My Brew log for the latest cut at this recipe

swenocha said:

This is an older thread, but here is what I worked out after touring the brewery and talking with Linus and company. I quite liked the result, and only have one bottle left. Resized to 5 gallon:

Dos Perros - All Grain - 5 gallon

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.00 gal

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
0.10 lb Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 1.30 %
4.49 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 58.51 %
2.49 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 32.51 %
0.36 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM) Grain 4.73 %
0.23 lb Carafa II (412.0 SRM) Grain 2.96 %
0.84 oz Pearle [5.40 %] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 19.4 IBU
0.42 oz Saaz [4.90 %] (5 min) Hops 1.6 IBU
English Ale Yeast

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.041 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 3.94 %
Bitterness: 21.0 IBU
Est Color: 13.9 SRM

My Brew log for the latest cut at this recipe

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Thanks much for the info! Re: yeast, which English yeast did you use? When I made this before with dry S-04 I found it to be far more estery than Dos Perros. I haven't tried this recipe since I started using liquid yeast.

WY 1968 is the way to go.

Wlp002 is what worked best for me here, so 1968 seems like a fine choice. I've also tried notty and s-04. Linus had a house yeast that he describes as english and that is low ester at 62 or so. I may see if I can get some of their yeast for the next go... Don't know if they are willing, but doesn't hurt to ask...

Long time Yazoo drinker but first time brewer. Subscribing to this thread!

Yazoo doesn't give out yeast anymore since All Seasons is literally just down the road. Linus doesn't want Paul to feel like he's poaching his business.

1968 is the house yeast.

Mmmm, Dos Perros... I always get my hands on some while visiting Nashville peeps.

I brew this today. Into the fermenter, it seems like a winner. I did use Notty though, since I didn't have time to make a starter. Looking forward to the results!