I used 1/4oz to 1.25 Gals. Think that is ok? If you use less what ratio?
OK, so I use Star San and I know that everybody raves about it. "Don't fear the foam." I'm not worried about the phosphoric acid. But, ingesting dodecylbenzenesulfonic acid doesn't sound healthy to me. I mean, isn't Benzene a known carcinogen? I love the stuff, it works great, it cured any sanitizing problem I've had, but can someone please ease my fear about the aromatic hydrocarbon thing? Do yeast really break it down?
March 29, 2007 - Sanitizing with Bleach and Star San
Charlie Talley from Five Star Chemicals tells us best practices in using household bleach and Star San in sanitizing equipment.
http://media.libsyn.com/media/basicbrewing/bbr03-29-07.mp3
If Charlie Talley doesn't put "Don't Fear the Foam" t-shirts up for sale soon he's an idiot and missing a huge opportunity.
OK, so I use Star San and I know that everybody raves about it. "Don't fear the foam." I'm not worried about the phosphoric acid. But, ingesting dodecylbenzenesulfonic acid doesn't sound healthy to me. I mean, isn't Benzene a known carcinogen? I love the stuff, it works great, it cured any sanitizing problem I've had, but can someone please ease my fear about the aromatic hydrocarbon thing? Do yeast really break it down?
....does chicken taste like wood because both contain mostly carbon?
OK, so I use Star San and I know that everybody raves about it. "Don't fear the foam." I'm not worried about the phosphoric acid. But, ingesting dodecylbenzenesulfonic acid doesn't sound healthy to me. I mean, isn't Benzene a known carcinogen? I love the stuff, it works great, it cured any sanitizing problem I've had, but can someone please ease my fear about the aromatic hydrocarbon thing? Do yeast really break it down?
Benzene and dodecylbenzenesulfonic acid are two VERY different things.
Just because both have a benzene ring doesn't mean anything....does chicken taste like wood because both contain mostly carbon?
The MSDS lists no carcinogenic effects, (of course, it lists toxic effects, but these are in the concentrated form).
I suppose if you're really worried, you can switch to iodophor though...
The docecyl fatty acid chain gets metabolized into acetyl-CoA during lipid oxidation in the respiring yeast cell which then frees up the benzene head group. SaniClean contains oleic acid sulfonate instead of docecylbenzene sulfonic acid.Oleic acid is an omega-mono unsaturated fatty acid that will certainly help the yeast build healthier cell walls
Really? Cool. But the benzene head group would still be some type of benzene sulfonic acid, right? The yeast aren't farting out actual benzene...
And if you buy into the healthier cell walls deal, then 1 drop of olive oil will provide the oleic fatty acids, no? .
Yes, and some add olive oil to promote yeast growth. There is a debate about it, but from what I gather the appropriate amount on a homebrew scale is so small that it would be difficult to administer properly in practice. Or perhaps you already knew that....
Really? Cool. But the benzene head group would still be some type of benzene sulfonic acid, right? The yeast aren't farting out actual benzene...
And if you buy into the healthier cell walls deal, then 1 drop of olive oil will provide the oleic fatty acids, no? .
What do you think?
More can be found here;
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/stupid-starsan-tricks-why-you-shouldnt-fear-foam-127044/
As you say, these warnings are for the undiluted Star San product. There is no concern once it has been diluted properly. There is less phosphoric acid in properly diluted Star San than in a glass of Coca Cola. So you have to ask yourself, would you take the same precautions with a glass of soda pop? If you answered YES, then rinse away!
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gmadd said:OK, so I use Star San and I know that everybody raves about it. "Don't fear the foam." I'm not worried about the phosphoric acid. But, ingesting dodecylbenzenesulfonic acid doesn't sound healthy to me. I mean, isn't Benzene a known carcinogen? I love the stuff, it works great, it cured any sanitizing problem I've had, but can someone please ease my fear about the aromatic hydrocarbon thing? Do yeast really break it down?
Benzene by itself is bad, but there are "benzene" rings in many of the things we eat and drink. Aromatic rings do not equal carcinogens.
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