Have you noticed most beer "connoisseurs" drink Heineken?
Eh, I've noticed most "connoisseurs" drink Guinness. You know, the really heavy, full bodied, higher alcohol beer. :sarcasm:
Have you noticed most beer "connoisseurs" drink Heineken?
Eh, I've noticed most "connoisseurs" drink Guinness. You know, the really heavy, full bodied, higher alcohol beer. :sarcasm:
Rev2010 said:I overhear people making stupid comments like this all the time and I always make a point (nicely of course, I don't come off as a *********) that it's actually lower in alcohol at about 4.2% on average. One time on vacation in Cancun in the pool two older americans we were chatting with went on to tell us how much stronger Tecate is than American beer I explained to them that it's actually a half percent lower than the average 5% of most American beers and that the reason they are perceiving it as stronger is due to being on vacation, drinking more, and drinking faster being in a leisurely environment.
Rev.
shelly_belly said:Have you noticed most beer "connoisseurs" drink Heineken?
A connoisseur sits in his leather chair in the oak-paneled room sipping from a crystal snifter. A beer geek appreciates his beer just as much, but may be standing out back wearing his work shirt and jeans as he does so.
At least, that's the picture I get from the word.
Sorry but that's plain ridiculous. Are we as a society expected to start dumbing ourselves down using "idiocracy" like terms such as "geek" over "connoisseur"? If I've been drinking several hundreds of types of beer, learning their origins, various aspects about the beers, their histories, and having dumped that much money I'd think it silly just to label me a geek. A word that, mind you, was typically assigned by jocks to kids they would wedgy and torture in school.
To instantly assume a connoisseur is some snobby ****** in a leather chair is akin to thinking someone with a Ph.D. shouldn't call include the term doctor unless they are of the medical type.
Rev. (Beer brewer and connoisseur) - typing this from my posh leather chair in my elaborate study by the fireplace while sipping not beer but 80 year old brandy...not. LOL
I'm probably just getting old and crotchety, but I have to know if the rest of you out there experience this.
I have a friend who just started seeing someone, and she says "I told him you're a homebrewer - he's a beer connoisseur and wants to try your beer."
(repeat over and over in a variety of settings and situations)
I think this whole "connoisseur" thing gets thrown around a little too loosely. I love sharing my beer, but I'd be far more apt to give someone a sample if they just asked.
You quite clearly did not understand much of what I said. At least you were rude in your reply.
Beer snob? I'm comfortable with that.
You can call yourself a beer snob with sarcasm being implied. Calling yourself a connoisseur actually sounds more snobby to me.
I won't drink Bud. I don't like it. I don't care if someone hands it to me. 99% of the time, they wouldn't drink my APA if I handed it to them.
pernox said:Stop having friends.
Works every time.
Most of the people I know won't touch ANY of my homebrews. "They're too strong" they say! They can't handle malt flavor, hop aroma/flavor, or high ABV. If you hand them something other than BMC they'll look at you funny. I don't drink BMC, but I don't mind that the people I know are the way they are. If I'm out socially and someone hands me a BMC I'll drink it. I won't enjoy it much, but I'll drink it.
I guess what I'm getting at is... a snob won't drink certain beers and will snub them. A beer connoisseur (Zythologist) must try all styles of beer to truely be a connoisseur.
Just my opinion...
You need some new friends..
You need some new friends. I had a brew party last summer and we bottled some beer, brewed some beer and did tastings of a half dozen different home brews. Everybody had a great time. People also brought all sorts of craft beers. There was some BMC but overall, people are willing to try something new.
For me though, Bud aint new. I'll never forget the time I went to Ireland to visit my uncle. He was so proud he had this great import beer. I was all keyed up and then it turned out to be Bud. Doh.... I think that's the last time I had one.
Most of the people I know won't touch ANY of my homebrews. "They're too strong" they say! They can't handle malt flavor, hop aroma/flavor, or high ABV. If you hand them something other than BMC they'll look at you funny. I don't drink BMC, but I don't mind that the people I know are the way they are. If I'm out socially and someone hands me a BMC I'll drink it. I won't enjoy it much, but I'll drink it.
I guess what I'm getting at is... a snob won't drink certain beers and will snub them. A beer connoisseur (Zythologist) must try all styles of beer to truely be a connoisseur.
Just my opinion...
Because you should only be friends with and hang out with people who do the same things you do and like the same things you like
paint me a snob. I stopped drinking/eating things I know I don't like. I'm not rude about it, but I don't like it, I won't take it.
Because if you like to brew beer you should find some friends who can enjoy it with you, they could be new friends or old friends. Also, people will try new things if you make it fun. You don't need to only be friends with people who like what you like, but you need a few.
Sorry but that's plain ridiculous. Are we as a society expected to start dumbing ourselves down using "idiocracy" like terms such as "geek" over "connoisseur"? If I've been drinking several hundreds of types of beer, learning their origins, various aspects about the beers, their histories, and having dumped that much money I'd think it silly just to label me a geek. A word that, mind you, was typically assigned by jocks to kids they would wedgy and torture in school.
To instantly assume a connoisseur is some snobby ****** in a leather chair is akin to thinking someone with a Ph.D. shouldn't call include the term doctor unless they are of the medical type.
Rev. (Beer brewer and connoisseur) - typing this from my posh leather chair in my elaborate study by the fireplace while sipping not beer but 80 year old brandy...not. LOL
Obliviousbrew said:I never call myself anything. People call me things, I´ve been called a range of things (beer related) from beer connoisseur to drunken idiot I don´t care too much for labels.
Obliviousbrew said:I never call myself anything. People call me things, I´ve been called a range of things (beer related) from beer connoisseur to drunken idiot I don´t care too much for labels.
I never call myself anything. People call me things, I´ve been called a range of things (beer related) from beer connoisseur to drunken idiot I don´t care too much for labels.
But what if you stick the labels on with milk so they're easy to get off?
techbrewie said:Imo, I'll give anyone my brews. Although I have to say it is much more satisfying to broaden the horizons and open a new world to the light lager junkies of the world than give a "connoisseur" something to criticize. I think most people that critique beer dont have any context. Comparing craft brews to micro brews to macro brews to mass produced chain breweries.
knowing a beer's source determines the resources at hand and the quality you should expect.
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