BreezyBrew
IPA is my spirit animal
Can anyone tell me why this isn't a real thing? Personally, I'd love to drink a super hoppy 5.5% beer.
BreezyBrew said:Can anyone tell me why this isn't a real thing? Personally, I'd love to drink a super hoppy 5.5% beer.
bighorn_brew said:Correction, 14 lbs golden promise i believe, on phone and cant edit original post.
grimstuff said:Okay, to follow up on this idea... I am currently brewing a "session IPA" using BYO's Pliny the Toddler, with a few tweaks. The hops are VERY dominate. Here's what I brewed:
5.5 gal
3.5 lbs MO
3.5 lbs 2-row
1.0 lb CaraPils
0.5 lb sucrose
0.75 oz Warrior 60 mins (16AA)
0.75 oz Galena 10 mins (12AA)
0.75 oz Cascade 10 mins (6.2AA)
0.75 oz Cascade 0 mins (6.2AA)
Safale US-05
Single-infusion mash @ 152.5 F 60 mins
90 min boil
Actual OG = 1.046
After 5 days fermentation (today) = 1.008 (~5% abv)
IBU estimate = 67
It tastes awesome. It's dry, with only a hint of sweetness, and a strong hop punch, especially with the Cascades. The malt is light on the tongue, almost like an American Lager, but the hops dance through unimpeded and there's no nasty, cloying crystal malt "scotch" flavors. The MO contributes noticeable but gentle toastiness and compliments the Cascade pine.
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3.5 lbs MO
3.5 lbs 2-row
1.0 lb CaraPils
0.5 lb sucrose
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Whats going on with the carapils and sucrose? They seem like they are used for the exact oppossite reasons: one for more body, the other for less... couldn't you decrease the carapils and not use the sucrose? Im confused at this combo
Here's how it makes sense to me:
CaraPils = body without flavor; contributes to mouthfeel, but not a lot to malt backbone. Head-retention characteristics of crystal.
Sugar = providing alcohol without contributing to backbone. Lighter body, but only because it provides alcohol. More of a gentle balancing act than adding X-amount of sugar to equal X-amount of lightness.
The two things they have in common are contributing to the character of the beer without adding maltiness. I think where it gets confusing is when we think of sucrose and dextrins as being on opposite ends of the same "body" spectrum. Body isn't always easily defineable, at least not to me. I'm not looking for any dominate malt notes with this recipe, so the dextrin malt is great for making a lighter-bodied, but not thin, beer. In its absence you'd use either more 2-row or crystal (more or different flavor) or more sugar (more alcohol, possibly sweetness). And I'm not looking for either a lot of malt flavor (definitely not cloying crystal) or much sweetness or booze.
Vinnie lists Carapils second when relating the simplicity of a DIPA grain bill, and it's used in the actual Pliny recipe, along with sugar. Of course, the proportion of Carapils in this recipe is much higher (11.7%) than it is in the 5-gallon Pliny recipe (4%). So as to the final effect, I'll have to wait and see.
brettwasbtd said:I guess I can see where you are coming from. Still not the approach I would use. A low ABV beer like this I would probably be trying to keep the alcohol lower, so the sucrose wouldn't even been on my mind. Also my attempts at something like this are closer to the 4% range so it might be why I wouldnt include the sucrose
BreezyBrew said:Maybe I'm just ignorant but I wouldn't think a 4% beer would have any body at all.
Are you kidding? Its called a frickin pale ale.Can anyone tell me why this isn't a real thing? Personally, I'd love to drink a super hoppy 5.5% beer.
buttcord said:Are you kidding? Its called a frickin pale ale.
It's not.........
Are you kidding? Its called a frickin pale ale.
Personally, I'd love to drink a super hoppy 5.5% beer.
bighorn_brew said:Im doing this kinda beer right now. Based very closely on the "bitter american" clone recipe. With a couple mods/subs.
12 gallon batch
14 lbs golden promise
20 oz munich
8 oz crystal 10-20
8 oz crystal 30-40
8 oz crystal 120
1.5 oz g. Magnums 60 mins
2 oz amarillo 20 mins
4 oz simcoe tossed in during last 15 mins every 1 min
Off top of my head og was 1.043ish and ibus 50ish
Split into 2 so4 in one and wy1007 in other, we will see.......
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