Yooper Chick said:I've made the 60 minute clone and changed it slightly, but I believe the amber malt called for was the Thomas Fawcett amber malt- I didn't have that so I substituted maris otter which I like better anyway.
Beerrific said:I think I am going to try this out. My first true clone. Do you think if I replace the pilsner malt with domestic 2-row will there be a noticeable difference? Doing so will save me $5.
Bike N Brew said:Are you doing all-grain, or the PM recipe that the OP posted? If PM, I doubt you'd notice. If AG, there would probably be a difference, but only if you had the two versions side-by-side. So go with the 2-row (which I think Yoop used in her 60-min clone)
Bike N Brew said:Biscuit malt might be a good sub for Amber as well, if you can get that.
Yooper Chick said:I would not add crystal, although Yuri did in his 60 minute clone. I'd either do maris otter or biscuit malt for the amber malt. If you could swing it, I'd recommend the pilsner malt, not the 2 row. Although, if you're using the pilsner malt, you probably should have a protein rest. The pilsner malt would give you the lightest color and flavor and possibly more body but really no other benefits that I can think of. In the last 60 minute clone I did, I used all maris otter for the grain bill so I got a bit more flavor this time. Of course, I'm no expert on malts so take that for what it's worth.
Yooper Chick said:Sounds ok to me- but you've totally changed the original grain bill. That's fine, of course, if you want to do that. You are making a richer, more toasted malt base than in the original. I think it would be good- but it won't be a DFH 90 clone then. I haven't actually seen the recipe you're planning on using, since we started talking about a PM recipe first so these are just my impressions.
I think MO is a fantastic base malt and I like the toasted biscuity flavors of biscuit malt. But if your original called for pilsner malt, that is a difference both in color and flavor.
Edit- I'm moving this conversation to a new thread- we've totally stolen it!
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