This thread is so much more hilarious after a few beers..
Do what you want, or don;t do anything, it's your beer after all...
Word, it defiantly is.......
This thread is so much more hilarious after a few beers..
Do what you want, or don;t do anything, it's your beer after all...
I am totally with you on this. Revvy has gone above and beyond to help the beginners who come to this forum. All this banter aside, that's something that gets my respect. Had my share of homebrew last night and mellowed out. Hope we can all start this new day as friends.So what, Revvy can be a little abrasive sometimes. Its not that big of a deal, get over it. Revvy has probably helped more noob brewers than 99% of the members in this community.
Excessive sampling does nothing.
There is a non-zero chance that even your hydrometer/refractometer doesn't tell you what the current state of the beer is (just use your imagination...you can come up with ways it could be wrong). I admit...it's very close to zero but still non-zero.A hydrometer or refractometer is the only way to know what the current state of the beer is.
I know that in the past Revvy has claimed to have full fermentations without ANY bubbles coming from an airlock. I think that claims like that, without further clarification, can be misleading. It seems like a gross exaggeration just to try to make a point (and I totally agree that Revvy is usually one of the more helpful HBT members). If your beer fully fermented...it made CO2...a LOT of it...fact. If you had a full fermentation without airlock activity you either had a leak or you didn't use an airlock...or maybe you forgot to put water in it.
It was bad enough that Squirrely decided to take out whatever **** was going on yesterday out on me. That's why I pretty much ignored this what did he just call it, "little game", 'casue I knew I didn't do anything to warrant it.
But don't you ever ****ing call me a liar again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I don't see airlock buubling I don't see airlcok bubbling, several OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD HAVE SAID THEY DON'T OFTEN SEE AIRLOCK BUBBLING. So shove it up your ass!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't say that if it wasn't true....where the **** do you THINK I got the IDEA NOT TO TRUST THE DAMN THING ANYWAY, from my own observations.
For most of it's history people made beer without hydrometers...or even thermometers. They did it by being observant. The notion that you have to be some sort of Yeast Whisperer or Beer Savant to do this is ridiculous imo.
It was bad enough that Squirrely decided to take out whatever **** was going on yesterday out on me. That's why I pretty much ignored this what did he just call it, "little game", 'casue I knew I didn't do anything to warrant it.
But don't you ever ****ing call me a liar again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I don't see airlock buubling I don't see airlcok bubbling, several OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD HAVE SAID THEY DON'T OFTEN SEE AIRLOCK BUBBLING. So shove it up your ass!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't say that if it wasn't true....where the **** do you THINK I got the IDEA NOT TO TRUST THE DAMN THING ANYWAY, from my own observations.
Or not . . .I am totally with you on this. Revvy has gone above and beyond to help the beginners who come to this forum. All this banter aside, that's something that gets my respect. Had my share of homebrew last night and mellowed out. Hope we can all start this new day as friends.
It was a rough game, but thanks for playing.
Or accuse me of being "misleading."
If I don't see airlock bubbling I don't see airlcok bubbling, several OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD HAVE SAID THEY DON'T OFTEN SEE AIRLOCK BUBBLING. So shove it up your##
I wouldn't say that if it wasn't true....where the **** do you THINK I got the IDEA NOT TO TRUST THE DAMN THING ANYWAY, from my own observations.
I have 9 different fermenters, buckets, carboys, water bottles, whatever, and I have seen airlock bubling maybe half the time....
Must be that damn Squirrely chewing holes in your equipment.It was bad enough that Squirrely . . .
I have 9 different fermenters, buckets, carboys, water bottles, whatever, and I have seen airlock bubling maybe half the time....
Thank you. It twists my knickers to no end when folks are so dead set into one process to brew. Use any and all resources available to you. Ignoring a "pressure relief" device because it doesn't have a graduated scale on it is ignoring data. Brewing is art AND science and always has been. Use your senses to see where things are in the process as well as "modern" tools available to you.
To ignore one aspect or the other doesn't make any sense to me at all.
For those saying, "they've done it without hydrometers for 1000s of years"... Didn't people used to also practice bloodletting? Or how about how they used to help the Civil War soldiers with their gun shots... a bottle of whiskey and a hacksaw. I suppose they're all fine, but I'd rather not eyeball it...
To me, that would be an equipment fault and I'd strive to fix it. I've never had a batch ferment where there wasn't airlock activity. If the airlock wasn't bubbling, it wasn't doing the job of letting pressure out without letting outside air in.
You know your equipment. The n00b that says it's not bubbling might not know how to use the equipment and saying "It's alright, sometimes it doesn't bubble" doesn't help them use the equipment the right way. You might have a leak in bucket/lid/stopper/whatever that you are aware of. The n00b doesn't know that.
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