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  1. frankvw

    BE-256 dry Fermetis 'abbey'; has anyone used it , results?

    Personally, I wouldn't. While BE-256 (in my personal and limited experience) is sometimes slow to carbonate, it usually does get the job done in the end, and I would give such big beers plenty of cellar time anyway. I also suspect that part of the problem may be that BE-256 can drop like a...
  2. frankvw

    Dry yeasts identified - your opinions please!

    That's not quite how yeast behaves. Take high stress fermentations, for example. At high alcohol levels yeast produces smaller daughter cells, and there is considerable indication that this has to do with DNA changes since those smaller daughter cells continue to produce smaller offspring cells...
  3. frankvw

    Dry yeasts identified - your opinions please!

    For some home brewers this may be true, for others it may not be. If you are an advanced brewer with proper control over your mash temperature, wort composition and what not, 10% difference in attenuation will matter. For others who don't care about 2 degrees mash temperature difference, wort pH...
  4. frankvw

    Dry yeasts identified - your opinions please!

    You are talking about mutation, not adaptation. They're different things. People living at high altitude develop a different physiology than those living at sea level. This is not genetic mutation; it's adaptation. Yeast does the latter. Natural selection does not play a role in this process. It...
  5. frankvw

    Dry yeasts identified - your opinions please!

    First off, the idea of "random mutation" is inaccurate. Yeast does not mutate randomly more often or more easily than any other organism. DNA replication failure, ionizing radiation or chemical factors may influence yeast like it may influence you or me, which is to say, rarely and only under...
  6. frankvw

    BE-256 dry Fermetis 'abbey'; has anyone used it , results?

    White Labs says it's POF+. I asked them. I've also brewed with it and I'm getting typical Belgian spicy phenols. That said, though, WLP540 has a more muted phenol profile than WLP-500-503. I doubt even that. Belgian abbey yeasts have some wine yeast in their ancestry (hence their proclivity for...
  7. frankvw

    Dry yeasts identified - your opinions please!

    Is Malzwerkstatt a yeast production lab? From what I see I sort of doubt that.
  8. frankvw

    BE-256 dry Fermetis 'abbey'; has anyone used it , results?

    Why? WLP540 is POF+ while BE-256 is POF-. Apples and oranges. I can believe BE-256 being of English rather than Belgian origins, though. It's not the worst Fermentis have done. They used to position S-33 (which is plain old EDME) as a Belgian yeast as well (!) and until a few years ago they...
  9. frankvw

    BE-256 dry Fermetis 'abbey'; has anyone used it , results?

    Interesting. I've also come across BE-256 beers that were extremely slow to carbonate. This yeast seems to struggle somewhat with bottle conditioning, which further strengthens my personal opinion that this is NOT an Abbey strain. In a professional brewing context (with exact control over DO...
  10. frankvw

    Dry yeasts identified - your opinions please!

    My money is on these being repacked/rebranded mainstrain yeasts from Fermentis and Lallemand. Yeasts like "Four" and "Five" are not hard to identify as SafAle S-04 and US-05. Lallemand strains match many others. Then there's AEB, Mauri and what not. Fudge the characteristics a little, rename it...
  11. frankvw

    Dry yeasts identified - your opinions please!

    That would make sense; Lallemand seems especially good at taking liquid yeasts and turning them into dry ones.
  12. frankvw

    BE-256 dry Fermetis 'abbey'; has anyone used it , results?

    Saisons have a spicy character, yes, but they are not the only style characterized by the typical Belgian spicy phenols. Check the BJCP style guide, categories 24-26. All beers listed there include spicy phenols in the aroma description. Yes, balanced with tons of fruity esters, but they are an...
  13. frankvw

    BE-256 dry Fermetis 'abbey'; has anyone used it , results?

    It does still apply. It's POF- and it always will be. Yes, it' s highly attenuating, high in isoamyl aetate esters and with a fairly high alcohol tolerance. But that's it. Trust Fermentis to position a POF- yeast as an abbey strain! :no: But then, they used to market S-33 (i.e. basic EDME) as a...
  14. frankvw

    BE-256 dry Fermetis 'abbey'; has anyone used it , results?

    Pitch moderately and ferment not too cold and you'll have more banana than you know what to do with. :) Depending on gravity, beware of "hot" alcohols, though, so don't overdo it on the temperature. But yeah, it should work well with chocolate(ish) flavours.
  15. frankvw

    The Gruit Beer Thread

    Which brings up an interesting point. Hop bitterness is often reduced over time, mainly by the oxidation of alpha and beta acids. Gruit bitterness, on the other hand (e.g. from Wormwood or Quassia) is not based on alpha or beta acids but on other compounds. This suggests they respond differently...
  16. frankvw

    The Gruit Beer Thread

    Personally I do. I like the balance. I always compare it to coffee: without a teaspoon of sugar in it the coffee tastes too bitter, but that same teaspoon of sugar in a glass of water is far too sweet. You need both in the mix. By my taste, anyway. :) But you point that bitterness is not...
  17. frankvw

    The Gruit Beer Thread

    After comparing some gruit herbs by taste a few days ago (see my previous post in this thread) I did the same with Wormwood and Quassia, which I intend to use as a bittering agent. I followed the same procedure (pour 250ml. of boiled water onto the herb and steep for 5 minutes, then taste)...
  18. frankvw

    Dry yeasts identified - your opinions please!

    I need a beer... 🤯
  19. frankvw

    Dry yeasts identified - your opinions please!

    Ehm... Isn't that what I just said? So yes, M20 is specified at 18-30C. Although I see I did make a typo; M21 is specified at 18-25, not 18-15 (obviously). :oops: I'm going by MJ's original data, BTW, not by data copied by 3rd parties. And such a wide range is not unusual for a Weizen yeast...
  20. frankvw

    The Gruit Beer Thread

    I thank you, kind sir!!
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